Discussion in 'On Topic' started by Resin, Nov 23, 2007.
Which gun gives you most bang for your buck? Could you take one of those to go hunting?
I'd argue the AR-15 due to the virtually limitless abilities to change it around.
An AR-15 chambered for .308 with a decent scope is absolutely deadly for anything you could want to reasonably want to take down.
AK, depending what your hunting and your state laws 5.56 maybe illegal for some game.
Fine just disagree with me and make me look bad.
You probably know better than me anyways. I'm better with the law involving firearms than I am with actual firearms.
You could take down a deer with either really, but some places consider .223 what it really is a varmint round
AR does have more modularity but they have plenty of accessories out there for AK's too.
For the same price as a top name AR you can pick up an AK and a case of ammo so I'd consider that the better value.
which one has better aftermarket parts available
AR has more variety of stuff available. You can usually get stuff that'll do the same thing for the AK though.
IMHO, the AK is the better value/bang for your buck. The AK may not be as "pretty" as an AR, but the AK will work just as well for half of the money (comparing a base AR price to a base AK price).
I'd buy an AR, just because there's so much shit for aftermarket and change arounds availible it's laughable.
i'd go with an ak, long before an ar15.
the ak is cheaper.
but I hate em
get an ar.
specialy when swapping different caliber uppers.2 pins and your set.minus the mags.
but,take the beowulf.you can take a 5.56/.223 mag and use it for .50b.
10 rounds will fit into a 30 rd mag.
I assume most folks who hunt with an AR do not do so with one chambered for .223/5.56
In oregon it's legal to hunt black bear, cougar, pronghorn, buck deer, squirrel, etc.
The only stuff you can't hung with a .223/5.56 is the big stuff, like elk, bighorn sheep, or rocky mt goat.
bang for the buck, go with the AK. If you want anything other than the base rifle though, go with the AR.
Personally, my next AR is going to be in 6.5G
i would love an ar10. Personally, I love my 5.56 ar. But that's a 16" barrel, and it's getting the tacticool treatment.
I'd love to build my own .308 sniper-style ar... But I hear that building a .308 costs more than buying a pre-built. Anyone have links to reasonable stripped lowers and uppers?
how many times has this been discussed, honestly?
plenty reliable if you're not going to the deserts of Iraq
I wouldn't want to hunt anything other than squirrels with either. There are much better/cheaper surplus rifles to hunt with but just get a Rem 700+scope and call it a day.
fixt for betterness
i'm shopping around for a nice bolt-action, and the savage fl10p seems to be a better buy... discuss.
negative ghostrider. 6.5G > 6.8SPC
Wider range of weights available, WAY better long range, better short range as well. After seeing gel-tests of both, I honestly don't know why anybody wants 6.8
<<< never been deer huntin
legality aside, i did not realize it was commonplace for folks to hunt deer with .223/5.56
i thought .270 or so was about the smallest it got, generally I mean.
.223 is pretty common from what I've seen on the smaller stuff. You can use it on deer, and a well-placed shot is gonna do just fine to take a small one down. -- granted they're not using mil surplus to hunt.
But .308 and .30-06 seem to be the most common from the locals I've spoken with. with some people using .300 win mag for the big-stuff.
Link to gel tests and load data for tests? The tests I've seen that seem to make the 6.5 look worlds superior to 6.8 have been using rounds loaded super hot in bolt guns with quite long barrels. The other tests I've seen are like this and don't seem to show 6.5 pulling away with anything http://www.tacticalforums.com/cgi-bin/tacticalubb/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=78;t=001185#000000
In all fairness too my interest isn't long range target shooting, but defensive use out to 300 yards. Thats much further than I think I'd ever possibly need one and past that I'd rather go up to .308 For the 300 yards and less thing I think 6.8 is it.