GUN AR15 in CA

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  1. zumin3k

    zumin3k New Member

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    Hey guys, I'm starting to look into purchasing an AR, but I live in CA, and I'm not sure what I can and can't have. I looked around briefly on calguns.org, but the legal jargon was confusing. It sounds like I can't have a pistol grip :wtc:
    Any help?
    Thanks in advance.
     
  2. Jimmy Pop Cornholio

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    First off its CalGuns.net and yes you can have a pistol grip, but then you have to have a fixed mag. I reside in CA and I have 2.

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    I went to calguns.org, it worked fine:dunno:
    How much of a PITA is the fixed mag?
     
  4. GTslow88

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    With a BB, it's not much of problem.
     
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    With the BB it just adds a couple more seconds to reload. But when the zombies come trade it out...
     
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    And the site is CalGuns.net, .org is a backup but the main forums are on CalGuns.net
     
  7. GTslow88

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    . just velco a "tool" to your middle finger.
     
  8. Jimmy Pop Cornholio

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    I just have an extra bullet sitting next to me.
     
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    Thanks for your help. Do you know of a site that can explain it in a bit more detail? And how easy/hard is it to swap out for "when the zombies come"? ;)
     
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    I just bought 4 bullet buttons. I was a little late to the game :o

    Basically the law states our rifles must not have the capabilities to accept any detachable magazines (granted you want a pistol grip). The law defines detachable magazine as a magazine that is detachable WITHOUT the need to take apart the receiver or without the need of a tool.

    With the bullet button, you CAN NOT take the magazine out without the use of a tool...thus making it a non-detachable magazine. To release the magazine, you must use a tool fitted for the button to release the catch. The tool is a tip that will fit into the bullet button. The tip of a .223 round can be used as a tool.

    Before the Bullet Button, there was the Prince50 mag lock. I currently have this lock. This lock keeps the magazine release button from being depressed. You have to load your rounds by opening the top and swinging the upper out the way. Is it a pain? Yea. Is it really that bad if you are sitting at a bench shooting at paper? No. Although it is a total bitch if you ever get a jam.

    What makes the Prince50 kit good is that if you ever get rid of your "evil features" or decide to shoot out of state, you can take the supplied allen key, and "disengage" the lock. Then the magazine release button will be totally functional.
     
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    personally, I went with the MMG for drop mags :o
     
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    Ask right now I will try my best to explain it to you as dumbed down as I can. TO swap out the bullet button will take about 3 minutes max.

    In CA you can either have one of the following.

    1) Removable mag and no 'evil' features. (evil = collapsible butt stock, flash hider, pistol grip (aka all the fun stuff))

    2) all the fun stuff and a locked mag.

    Have any questions ask away
     
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    I fired an AK with a MMG and it wasn't that bad but it still wasn't a pistol grip. But I don't use a BB just for a pistol grip I want all the other toys :) Now if I had an AK I would just MMG it.
     
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    IMO the prince 50 is dangerous if you get a jam. It takes me less than 2 minutes to swap out my BB. Have you installed yours yet? It is VERY simple.
     
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    Well, I definitely want to go with the pistol grip, so it sounds like the fixed mag with the bullet button is the way to go. This modification can be done after it is received, correct, I don't have to order anything special for it to work?
     
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    Are you building ti yourself? If so then goto ColdWarShooters.com and order a BB ($25). If you are buying a complete lower just swap out the original (basically unscrew it, takes maybe 30 seconds) and install the BB (takes 1-2 minutes). To unscrew the original push in mag release all the way and unscrew the mag hold on the other side. For the BB put in mag hold, push in BB then put in spring and nut and screw and tighten and you are done.
     
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    It is. I was shooting Wolf one day :mamoru: The case did not eject. It was a complete bitch clearing it. Then with my luck a cease fire occurred. I ended up taking it to the range office to get it cleared. It could have been done in 20 seconds if the mag could have dropped.

    In addition to having a working rifle, you need to order the Bullet Button. I suggest that you read up on the law before though. The interpretation on the law for that is very sketchy IMO. IBFlames :o It is just smart to know what you are getting into.

    I ordered mine from http://www.tenpercentfirearms.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=265

    They are very supportive of calguns.net
     
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    You assholes have better ranges down south, though :fawk:
     
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    Sardaukar - where are you located? I'm in Modesto.
     
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    After reading a bit, it sounds like the BB will be the way to go. Thanks for the great info guys.
    Now, barrel length...School me. This will be a "for fun" gun, I don't hunt. Basically for paper targets and because I want to get one before Hillary or whoever bans them. :)
     
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    14.5" + flash suppressor for shortest...

    I just like shorter ARs...I believe I have a 16" 1/7 twist.
     
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    I was doing a little reading and it sounds like many regard 16" as just a little too short, and 20" as just a little too long, so maybe 18" is a good medium? I don't hear much about them though, most people only mention 16 or 20.
    I doubt I will ever shoot past 200 yards or so, so if it between only the 16 and 20, I will go with the 16.
     
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    Merced != SoCal. Closest long range to me is fresno (though it does have a 1k yard area :noes:
     
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    rumor has it theres a 1000yd range in fresno :noes:

    edit: OH WHAT THE FUCK
     
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