GUN AR15 crew! v.new rail

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  1. Paul Revere

    Paul Revere OT Supporter

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    I actually got my rail a few weeks ago, but haven't taken any pics of it yet :hsd:

    It's a Troy Industries MRF-DI (Modular Rail Forend - Drop In). According to Troy it's a non-free float rail system - they're technically right, but their locking system is so fucking sweet, for all intensive porpoises it is free float.

    Backstory: I was originally planning to get a Knights Armament RAS, but it isn't free float. Then I heard about the new Daniel Defense Omega Rail which IS free float. The only things I don't like about the DD OR is it creates a monolithic appearance :greddy2:, and the price.

    At SHOT 2008 I saw the MRF-DI and it blew all the other competition out of the water. It locks to itself unlike the KAC RAS and it doesn't give a monolithic appearance to the upper. The best part: it does all this at half the cost of the other two rails! $157 shipped :eek5:

    Enough talk, on to the pics!

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    mounted to my CMMG upper

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    i think it wants rail covers :hs:

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    note the screws that lock this bitch up tighter than a 14 year old's clam

    next up is a Vickers sling, some KAC rail covers and maybe a VFG :wavey:
     
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    :coold:

    Also

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  3. Didact

    Didact I have no idea what I'm doing

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    Ok, so how does it lock in without putting stress on the barrel?

    Just curious, I have the MI carbine rail. Locked in tight and it's a 2 piece
     
  4. Paul Revere

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    it screws to itself - the lower piece connects to the upper at those 4 points.

    the only connection to the weapon is at the delta ring, and whatever the fuck front piece it sits in :o i forget the name
     
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    Looks nice! I almost want some rails because plastic handguard rattle drives me nuts.
     
  6. Paul Revere

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    i've had zero movement on mine.

    at SHOT, they had a VFG mounted to the rails and i tried to torque it as hard as i could; it wouldnt budge.
     
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    Um, that is 100% like my UTG... and mine was $60.
     
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    uh, no. it's not 100% like mine.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UTG
     
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    Should have just said yes. Now the next 5 pages are going to be him telling you what a fool you are.
     
  10. Didact

    Didact I have no idea what I'm doing

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    I almost bought a UTG rear BUIS at the last gun show -- didn't know what UTG was actually. The guy selling them swore up and down it's the same as the $100+ versions.

    I've held both, I can tell a difference.
     
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    yea okay :rolleyes: It fits, its as solid as anything could possibly be, and I can yank and tug on my VFG and nothing happens. It's fine.


    You wanna spend 2x or more on a rail, be my guest. But it's the same fucking shit.
     
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    Troy makes good stuff. Real solid. Only thing I don't care for is that traditional rail systems mount accessories at the 12, 3, 6, and 9 positions. I like to a have secondary dot sights at 1:30 and a light at 10:30.
     
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    :rofl: I am flat out not trusting a $60 rail that was designed for airsoft on a $1,700 rifle. Sorry, dude, its not "the same fucking shit".
     
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    the company also makes airsoft, so what? It's a real-steel part. bmw started with airplanes... their car engines are fine.

    plenty of companies do more than 1 thing.
     
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    One factor is that the tolerance might not be the same or the dimensions might not be to spec. There are some cheap rail systems that once you bolt stuff to it they are real loose. The quality of the aluminum might not be as good and there is too much flex or it cracks when stressed.

    I guess the big thing is if it suits your needs and you like it then that's good enough. I mean if what your really after is something that looks tacti-cool for posting pictures on ARF why spend all the extra $$$. Then again what's the point of a $400 rail system that is heavy, isn't even free floating, and you don't own anything to attach to it? While it is true you generally get what you pay for, a lot of stuff your paying for the name too.

    Me I like nice toys/tools and spend the money.
     
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    :werd:

    i'll be getting a scout light soon - probably this summer. and whats also badass about this rail is that it has holes for QD sling swivels built in :bowdown:
     
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    why didnt you go free float?

    nevermind, i read the post
     
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    Very nice, Hoss.

    Barrel shroud.
     
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    no thats the thing on your shoulder that comes up.
     
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    Not quite a valid comparison. Aircraft and car engines are not all that different from each other (well, except for radials, but others are basically the same), so they really didn't have to change anything. Also, they were building motorcycles as well from the start, so they had atleast some experience when they started building cars. A good analogy for UTG would be like if Trek started making motorcycles or cars.
     
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    shoulder thing that goes up*
     
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    according to Carolynn McCarthy :mamoru:
     
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    If trek started making motorcycles I bet lots of people would be interested. But UTG isn't making "guns" they're just making accessories like rails. So it's more like if Trek took their bike-frame expertise and applied that technology to motorcycle contracts/accessories.
     
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    right, and who would want to buy a motorcycle based on a mountain bike frame?

    same goes for airsoft rails on a real AR15.
     

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