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  1. narcisis

    narcisis Active Member

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    So how many of you guys use Dreamweaver? I've been using it for years, I actually learned a bit of actual code just by using this program. I remember feeling accomplished learning how to put layers in timelines back in the day. :rofl:

    Anyone else?
     
  2. kingtoad

    kingtoad OT Supporter

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    No. Thank god.

    Fucking thing sucks.
     
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    Dreamweaver for me...sometimes notepad++
     
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    RetardedMonkey is a retarded monkey.

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    Sometimes.

    Rather just write the code myself though.
     
  5. narcisis

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    :rofl: why does it suck though?

    I've never did code by hand, well, entire pages I mean. I can do touchups where dreamweaver bloats shit up but that's about it.

    Even if you prefer to write code you can do that too, there's a code only view. And then you can quickly switch to design view and see how it looks.

    Seems convenient :dunno:
     
  6. narcisis

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    oh and imageready for slicin!
     
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    Pepsi1975 Mod of the Year

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    yes i use it, but i am trying to get away from it one day
     
  8. narcisis

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    I put up 18 or older pages :cool:
     
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    It sucks because it's a bloated, bulky, slow piece of shit. It also promotes bad use of HTML code and structure. Not to mention, importing well-written mark-up into will become garbage because Dreamweaver will try to include it's own styles and insert unnecessary mark-up. People rely on Dreamweaver's preview option for their code when it won't correctly render on FireFox and IE sometimes. Using Dreamweavers "design" view and you lose COMPLETE control over your document. If you're just using the code view, then there are much better lightweight options out there like TextMate.

    It's good for people who are learning. That's my opinion on it.
     
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    I use it, handy for editing code and swapping between css and html files to see the new look after editing.
     
  11. kingtoad

    kingtoad OT Supporter

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    I think if you take a learning approach to HTML/CSS/Whatever you should first learn from a text editor. If you rely too much on visual presentation it's going to take you much longer to learn and overtime will yield unsuccessful results. By forcing yourself to use Dreamweaver you become way too reliant on the "design" view or visual presentation of it and you won't get anything out of it.

    I fully promote experienced designers or developers using utilities like Dreamweaver so they can use the application to "assist" them rather than rely on it. The program should rely on you. Not the other way around.

    I know people have different methods of learning, I respect that, but from my learning experience and teaching others... Utilizing design view of Dreamweaver to learn isn't the right way to go. :o
     
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    What's a good code program for mac?
     
  13. kingtoad

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    TextMate

    sKEdit

    BBEdit
     
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    TextMate owns for OS X. InType is a good Windows alternative
     
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    I use it but i don't rely on ANY of it's built in functions, I code from scratch into it, I just like the built in preview and the color coding, I let it autocomplete some of my css as I'm typing it out, or close a tag as I press </ but that's it..

    I like being able to grab a file from the server with it, edit with the built in preview, save it directly to the server and be done.

    I feel like it's bloated and slow too often times though and would prefer something else, but I'm still on a single core 2.8ghz machine, probably time to upgrade.
     
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    Try TextMate. Lightweight editor with the features you want, minus the gayness of bloat.
     
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    RoblesGT [Track Days: 19 ][Crashes: 1] [SuMo Days: 1 ][Cras OT Supporter

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    i use it ONLY for the Upload on Save option ...
     
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    started using ultraedit a while ago
    seems really useful

    except it creates an additional .bak copy of any file i open, starts to clutter up my folders :hs:
     
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    You can disable that. :hs: I've been using UE32 on my Windows machine for years.
     
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    Used to use it in college because I really liked the dreamweaver/fireworks slice -> export feature where it would disassemble my graphics and reassemble it in HTML for my iframes.

    needless to say, that is an outdated method -- but it can still look very clean when done correctly.
     
  21. Drowned

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    I learned to code using Dreamweaver... now I prefer to code my own stuff but still use it when I'm lazy :hs:
     
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    I still uses slices with Image Ready and export to tables, works perfectly. :bigthumb:
     
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    A method that is out dated and not recommended.
     
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    I use it, however it's "preview in browser" function is pretty unreliable.
     
  25. narcisis

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    Worked then, and it works now. :cool:

    How else would I cut up my designs into workable html pages?
     

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