GUN Anyone here work security and not a cop?

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  1. Admitted

    Admitted I shouldn't be on OT right now.

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    I am working security this weekend for a private party and was looking for some tips. Obviously if something is going down, you politely ask someone to leave. If they resist you force them out without striking them. I am thinking that even if you are a security guard, you still aren't allowed to strike anyone for any reason except in your own defense. That is what all my bouncer buddies tell me.

    Am I missing anything here?
     
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    Just sling an AK. Everything will be fine and problems will resolve themselves.
     
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    Admitted I shouldn't be on OT right now.

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    Nope. I have a bunch of friends that bounce at a variety of clubs/bars and they have had 0 training other than what management has told them.
     
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    Around here there is also such thing as being a "bonded" bouncer.

    A guy who works for my family once was one for a big strip club nearby. Apparently it costs the business money to get you set up this way, but he said he could pretty much do whatever he wanted (within obvious reason). IE, go after people in the parking lot (bouncers only work within the establishment), greater leeway towards physicality, etc

    Other than that, I dunno much about it. I do know he was on call 24/7, and had worked there for a long time. Apparently it was a pretty big deal (to him, anyways) to be such. He did have some pretty cool stories.
     
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    I assume you packin heat? might be a good time to open carry if you can. insta-respect.
     
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    I'm a chef 3 days a week at a local bar/club
    My other 2 days of the week (fri/sat) i work as security :wiggle:
    we have a max capacity of almost 600 people, so there are 4-5 of us doing security on the weekends.
    Only rule I've been told is, don't punch anyone until they try to punch me first :dunno:
    Usually i'm just dragging drunk girl's outside by their shirts.
    Or if they're really big, i'll take their purse and make them follow me outside :mamoru:
    Most of the time though, guys just leave when asked :bowdown:
    We all wear ear-pieces connected to a radio (SS style)
    so if someone gives us a hard time we can immediately call for backup
    then all 5 of us can drag the problem out together :cool:
     
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    Admitted I shouldn't be on OT right now.

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    too bad i don't own an OWB holster
     
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    it's always a sight to see two guys start fighting, and within seconds a bouncer on each limb. i've only seen it once, but it was impressive.
     
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    idk but here in WA i'm not allowed to carry my gun inside of a bar.
    whether i'm working or not, so i leave it locked in my glovebox in my truck in the parking lot. :sad2:
     
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    Dalton lives like a loner, fights like a professional, and loves like there's no tomorrow.
     
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    3 weeks ago a guy started a fight and as i'm running up the stairs to help out 1 of the other bouncers
    i see some guy flying down the stairs right past me into the wall :rofl:
    i guess the guy went to tackle the other bouncer and he just sidestepped out of the way
    and the drunky threw himself down the stairs :bowrofl:
     
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    maybe carry IWB in plain view? IWB sort of has a built in retention. sort of.
     
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    :rofl:
     
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    guy ended up missing two teeth and had a broken nose
    threw himself down 15 stairs onto his ow face :mamoru:

    he was still outside harassing people and spitting blood everywhere.
    so we finally called the cops lol.
    his next wise decision was to spit blood on the cops car when they showed up.
    they arrested him for 'disorderly conduct' :greddy:
     
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    I worked at a bar for about 3 months doing security and checking IDs. When I was hired on the owner just told me if an incident occurs, just separate the parties involved and get them out of the bar. Then it's was up to the cops and MPs.
     
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    I was a bouncer for a year at a bar but it was pretty quiet. I think the worst thing I ever did aside from dragging people out the door was knee a guy in the stomach that wouldn't let go of my jacket and bounced a guys head off the sidewalk with my elbow (he tried to punch my brother so he had it coming) :o

    But yeah don't start fights, be polite, and once they're off the property or whatever don't touch them and just call the cops.
     
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    May not apply for a private party...

    In California, Senate Bill 194 requires any bouncer or bar security guard to be registered with the State of California Department of Consumer Affairs Bureau of Security and Investigative Services. These guards must also complete a criminal background check, including submitting their fingerprints to the Department of Justice and the Federal Bureau of Investigation. Californians must undertake the "Skills Training Course for Security Guards" before receiving a security licence. Further courses allow for qualified security personnel to carry batons upon completion of training.

    Back in my Frat boy days we would hire security to work our parties. Pretty cool guys, took car of bussiness. Did a much better job than the pledges when it came to keeping people out we didn't want there, patroling the parking lots for trouble makers. Because we had really good parties loser thugs who couldn't get in then end up harrassing the girls when they came and went to their cars.

    There was one guy who wore a vest and had pepper spray hanging off his belt. Tall marine type guy. Anyway before the party we would feed the guys they were pretty cool. I remember they said they could not throw a closed fisted punch, everything had to be open hand.
     
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    what house are you in?
     
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