Anyone have Experience with a 1998-2000 Volvo V70 R?

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  1. ISfrmHOLDN

    ISfrmHOLDN New Member

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    I am considering getting rid of my Lexus IS for a more family friendly car. I still want something sporty but more of a wagon style car. The Lexus has 10 cu in. of trunk space. I have seen a few of these wagons and love the AWD and turbo engine. Any feed back is appreciated.
     
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    spiffy_badrock I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you.

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    The AWD is pretty much useless from what Ive gathered at Volvospeed.com, talk to a member named Legend854T5R, he just bought a XC70 (same AWD system) and had some mixed luck. They arent as fast as the name may imply, but it would run stock for stock pretty close to your IS (If not a little behind). If you can afford it, the newer (03 or 04) V70 R's are a lot better in the performance dept. I own a 850 Turbo Wagon (Previous Gen. to the V70's) and besides some interior quality issues and it being on the slower side, its not bad. Seats are mighty comfortable.
     
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    spiffy_badrock I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you.

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    Oh and I forgot, the one huge redeming factor, if you put the backseats down in the wagon...you can carry tons of junk. I moved from one apartment to another with just my 850 and my friends Dodge Avenger. Several members of VS have used the back sections of their wagons as temporary sleeping spaces.
     
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    Thanks for the feed back. If you have an 850 Turbo wagon what have you run into for service issues? Transmission working well? Electrical issues? I may consider a new V70 R with the 6-speed but my wife is due in June and I want something fairly cheap to drive for a few years.
     
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    spiffy_badrock I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you.

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    The trans has a slight whine, but its very intermittent, Ive had several trusted trans. specialists look at, and they say its nothing. As far as service issues, nothing out of the ordinary for a car with 93K on it.
     
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    It's a quick car. 260hp/258ft lbs in the 2k0 V70R's. Some is lost through the driveshaft, but I would say its similar to my 236hp S70 T5. I have driven around with IS300's, and they are not faster than my car. You'll be in front. V70R's have leather/suede seats too. And special interior's that are very nice.

    The problem with the AWD systesms is that some parts can fail, and bring problems to the rest. It's all around a viscous coupling in the AWD, so it's no where near as advanced as todays AWD systems. You can catch problems early, and a mechanic will be able to spot any trouble. The AWD is fine, but if you keep pushing the car when it pushes back, you could see problems. It's not the whole, but just some parts can fail and cause larger problems.
    If spiffy_backlog's posts concern you, remember he doesn't own one and is talking about problem's he's read on a message board.

    I'd suggest looking for a V70 T5 if you want used. It's only FWD and a little less HP than the R's, but just as nice. You never hear of any of the S70 AWD sedans that have the same system running into trouble, but they only make 190hp. The new V70R's are great, and run the slalom speed of 65.9 mph, faster than non Z06 Vette's.

    My S70 T5 is practically the same as any V70. I haven't run into any major problems. Right now, my ABS is acting up, but its only the sensor. I haven't had any stopping problems. Also, it's doing well in the snow here. Not as planted as AWD or 4x4, but good. Winter mode on the transmission helps for starting in deep snow or slick spots. Doesn't let the tires get as much torque, starting the car in 3rd gear, and going to 4th. But lets it kick down if need be.
    My transmission is fine, no electrical problems. Got mine used...
    Check out www.swedespeed.com .
     
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    spiffy_badrock I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you.

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    Wait, an S70 T5 is by all means nearly identical to an 850 T5, and therefore I do own a volvo, quite similar to yours and even closer than yours to a V70 (as both are wagons.). Get this through your head.

    So by all accounts, neither you or I own a V70R.

    Speed, is all in the driver, In my book, quick dosent come into play until 13.5 or faster. And show me a set timeslips for a V70R's running that (From the US) and Ill call it quick.

    Check out the FWD/AWD Maintence section on www.volvospeed.com , the Bay 13 Admin is very keen on just about any Volvo you can throw at him. At least there, information will be coming from an impartial expert.
     
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    From what I knew, you drove an old 855T. And it is not identical. Different breaks for one thing.
    Speed is all in the driver when its a race track. When it is, a good driver makes a difference. But we are talking about street cars. Being used on the street. Mostly auto vs auto. Just put it in drive, and stomp the gas. That's it. 30-40hp is a very good difference between you and other cars on the road.
     
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    spiffy_badrock I'm sorry, if you were right, I'd agree with you.

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    Lets Offer A Little Evidence, shall we
    You-
    16T - B5234T3 240hp 1997-1998 finns i S/V/C70 T5, straight oulet from turbine.
    16T - B5234T3 240hp 1999-2000 finns i S/V/C70 T5, angled outlet from turbine.
    850 S/V/C 70 AW 50-42 Trans.

    Me-
    15G - B5234T 225hk/B5234T5 240hk 1996, straight outlet form turbine.
    850 S/V/C 70 AW 50-42 Trans.


    Prospective Buyer-
    18T - B5234T4 250hp 1997-1998 only S/V70R man FWD/AWD, 275/60 wastegate and straight outletform turbine.
    18T - B5234RT 250hp 1999 only V70R AWD, 4-vxl aut, 300/70 wastegate and angled outlet form turbine.
    850 S/V/C 70 AW 50-42 Trans.
    Or
    M56 "H" Manual

    Yes, we do have diffrent brakes....(oh no wait, thats what you mean wasnt it...or are you getting at something else with breaks) 280mm, to 302mm.

    But you'll notice you and I have the same motor...and the same trans. And if you talk to any real Volvo buff, mostly the same car. So with that point im lost, I dont quite follow?

    When it comes to speed, how often do you hit the track on your daily commute? And the orignal poster says he is looking for a "More fmaily friendly car" so somehow, I dont think he's going to be the track day terror. But, we are talking about street cars...and 99% of the motoring world measures speed in straight line performance, where...im sorry the V70 falls kinda short on its R heritage, When Infiniti's and Dodge Magnums can run close-or slightly beat you in an V70R, then I think Volvo may be close in the power dept. but not really there.

    No, the problem with the AWD is the front bias, with the AWD working, the R cars (even the 03's-04's) have trouble dyno-ing near spec. (After figuring drivetrain loss), the only way to bring the power to where it should be (and still a little short), is to remove the fuse and take the car back to FWD.

    Really, I dont understand the argument your making here, I said the interior has some flaws, (mainly dealing with the wood trim and leather wear) But I said the seats were comfortable and besides needing a little extra grunt, the car was great.
     

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