GUN Anyone else not care for DA/SA?

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  1. Fox800

    Fox800 Fear Boner OT Supporter

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    After years of drinking Glock kool-aid...I can't bring myself to get used to a DA/SA trigger system. Ran through some drills last week involving point shooting/flash sighting and didn't even engage the DA trigger far enough to fire a few times. I think I'm going to simplify my collection to pistols that have one trigger pull only...so striker-fired pistols, SAO's, etc.

    Anyone else not a fan of DA/SA? Pistol in question was a Sig.
     
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    So what's a DA/SA trigger? Is that like a single action trigger that has a little bit of pull, like the XD. Or is it a trigger where you can switch between single action and double action?

    I qualified on a P229DAK which is a double action and shot the P229 at a range which had a single action (barely moved the trigger to fire it). I don't know if the P229 I had was the DA/SA trigger you're talkin about.

    edit: fixed typo (since should have been single)
     
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    DA: Hammer down, long and heavy trigger pull cycles the hammer and fires a round
    SA: Hammer cocked back, light trigger pull releases the hammer and fires the round.
     
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    Model/caliber? I may try a DAK in the future.
     
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    Gotcha. So the DA/SA trigger in the Sigs just means you can switch it between the two whenever you need to? The p229 I fired at the range was a DA if the hammer was down and a SA every time afterwards (if I didn't have the slide back while loading a magazine).

    What's the difference as far as performance? Or is it all just personal taste?

    I assume DA is a little more accurate, but I could be wrong.
     
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    Same trigger pull every time for me, thanks.
     
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    The first pull is always Da unless you manually cock it. After the first shot, it is SA until you decock it.

    SA is easier to shoot than DA the trigger pull weight is significantly different.
     
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    The DA/SA Sigs don't "switch" from one to the other per se, but if the hammer is down the trigger pull is DA. The trigger pull is much longer than when it is in SA mode where it drops the hammer.

    If the DA/SA is empty and you put a loaded mag in it and cycle the slide, then the hammer will be back and the trigger will give a SA pull.

    The trigger pull is a lot longer on the DA pull, so I wouldn't say it is necessarily more or less accurate. Depends if you can steadily pull it without jerking the gun around.

    If you drop the hammer using the hammer release, then the gun will be in double action mode for the first trigger pull. Once the slide cycles the hammer will be cocked, and the rest of the shots will be SA.
     
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    Equipment solution to a training problem. And it's not even that well executed. I want my first reset point to be the friendlier one, not the second.

    On a similar note, Sig really did it right with the SRT. Do want.
     
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    Personally I don't like it, though the only experience I've had with that type of trigger is with the M9. When we were first trained with it - I found that my first shot (which was DA) was always dead on, but every shot after that was anticipated - especially when the range instructor was randomly telling us to how many shots to shoot per drill. Each time the call to fire was made - we'd draw and shoot, but having only the first shot to be DA while the rest were SA was getting redundant and inconsistent.

    I can see why the military has a DA/SA trigger simply for safety precautions - Especially with the AF always loading the M9 hot no matter RoEs. But for carry/home defense, I really don't see the need for it. SA only or striker fired is the way to go.
     
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    This is how I think.
     
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    Same here, but I prefer a heavier pull. So I prefer DAO triggers. It also helps do away with external safeties, which I like.
     
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    i heard u like fgts?
     
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    no DAO, no care
     
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    hate DA/SA signing in
     

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