GUN anybody familiar with the cali gun laws?

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  1. ooorah2111

    ooorah2111 New Member

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    I have an AR-15 with a Stag-Arms lower. I have a 3 position m4 stock, muzzle break, and a C-products 10 round mag inside a 30 round tube. My magazine is fixed into place with a Prince50 Mag lock kit. Is this setup legal in California?
     
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    Believe the stock has to be fixed. Your one evil feature is the pistol grip.
     
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    It should be fine. Overall barrel length must be 16"+, and rifle must be 26"+ IIRC. Most collapsible stocks are fine.
    I have a 16" barrel, bullet button'ed 10rd mag and collapsible stock with a pistol grip and I'm legal.

    EDIT: Overall length of 30", not 26", as stated below.
     
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    no. if he has a pinned mag everything else is ok (adjustable stock, pistol grip and flash suppressor).

    if he has a drop mag, he cant have any of the aforementioned "evil features"
     
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    This. He has a Prince50 magazine lock, so having flash suppressor, pistol grip, collapsible stock, etc, is OK.
     
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    I'm not sure what's worse.

    No concealed carry, and really no open carry (legal, but you'd get harassed endlessly here), or dealing with the shit CA, IL, MA, CT, and others have passed :hs:

    At least in WI everything is legal. No restrictions on NFA, DD, etc. other than BATFE requirements. Maybe I should stop posting about that; the dipshits in state .gov here will go on a banning spree :noes:
     
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    somewhat correct. barrel length must be at least 16 inches, and the overall length of the rifle (in shortest configuration) must be at least 30 inches.

    all collapsible stocks are ok, as long as you're following the rest of SB23
     
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    No one in gun crew is from California. They know better.
     
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    hay [​IMG]
     
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    Hm, I agree with all of your responses. However, the police are saying that my rifle is illegal due to three things. 1. Illegal collapsible stock 2. Detachable magazine 3. Illegal magazine with the ability to accept more than 10 rounds
     
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    The DOJ purposefully withholds the correct information from local LE. Your setup is entirely legal. OLLs should not be a misunderstood concept in CA, as many DAs and POs now know what is and isn't within the law. Maybe it's time your department be educated.
     
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    I think I read somewhere in calguns.net that the C-products 10 rd in 30 rd tube may not pass regulations. What do you guys think of the magazine? I mean the spring is modified so that you can only accept 10 rounds.
     
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    Modifications to magazines need to be permanent. It must be irreversible to the point that the magazine would be destroyed before you were ever able to reconvert it to normal capacity. A shortened spring would not cut it. :mamoru: C Products mags are in the grey area. They do cut and bend a piece of the metal in the body to prevent the follower from traveling any further down the magazine. If you think you can bend that metal tab back into place without rendering the mag useless, then I would not use them.
     
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    Have you shown them the magazine in question? Demonstrate for them the loading of it? You might try calguns.net to see if anyone else lives in your area and what contact they have had with local LE.

    EDIT: Fucking DOJ.

    EDIT2: Buy this.
    http://www.44mag.com/prodinfo.asp?number=CP10MCG
    Or send a PM to chakup. He might carry these.
     
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    whoawhoawhoa, like, bringing charges against you? If so, you REALLY need to call these guys ASAP: http://trutanichmichel.com/


    Also, you really should get on calguns.net if you haven't already.
     
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    Yes sir. My rifle is currently being inspected as we speak. The police lieutenant stated that my rifle is illegal due to those three things that I mentioned above. He then sent my rifle to have it inspected to see if it is approved by the DOJ.

    I already posted on calguns but they locked my thread after 3 replies and told me to go find a lawyer.
     
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    Do you guys know of any similar court cases in California where owners were falsely accused of possessing an illegal rifle? Maybe I could print those out and show the police and let them know that they are wrong.
     
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    How'd they go about obtaining your gun?
     

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