Discussion in 'OT Technology' started by White Stormy, Jan 24, 2009.
the documentation on the official site is almost as shitty as drupal's
any tutorials or anything other than the "blog" tutorial?
I thought the CakePHP quickstart tutorials were pretty good. I haven't been to their site in a while though.
And +1 on Drupal's docs being shitty. That would be very harshly due to the fact that majority of it is user contributed though.
the blog tutorial was really easy.. and produced quick results.. but there should be some info or links or SOMETHING at the end to answer the "ok well now how do I..?" questions that are sure to follow, since the "blog" tutorial's end product is worthless.
To get by most of Drupal's crappy documentation, I browse http://api.drupal.org a lot and review core modules for something I need to do. Maybe CakePHP has an API site of the sort?
Also, how do you like it thus far?
like drupal, I like the nature of it, and I like the principles it's supposed to use.. but I can't do anything with it yet.
the first question I had after doing the "blog" tutorial..
was "where the hell is the CakePHP: the rapid development php framework link coming from?"
I had to do Find In Files in Notepad++ to figure out that it was in \cake\libs\view\layouts\default.ctp
A single mention anywhere of that would have been nice.
and I keep seeing mentions of plugins for CakePHP.. but I haven't found any sort of repository of contributed plugins..
the only thing I've found that might be it.. is the Forge.. and the user friendliness of that is pretty terrible. There are only a handful of projects listed.. most of them have no description, no screenshots, no information at all.. and the installation instructions for many of them make them out to be whole web sites.. not just plugins.
This is all exactly what everyone seems to say about cake....easy setup, works out of the box, zero documentation. I think it's also the slowest framework by far.
I've been trying to decide on one of these PHP mvc frameworks to learn for months. Sort of leaning toward symfony I guess. decisions decisions
the symfony tutorial almost has too much information
it's like "holy jesus, 24 pages, slow down bro"
I'm gonna be trying the symfony tutorial when I get frustrated by cake again later
I wanted to try ruby on rails.. but I couldn't get it to connect or run or something on my server.. gonna try that again later, too.
I'll put the time and effort into learning one if its directory structure makes sense. cake has you editing files all over the damn place. that makes it hard to find what I should be editing.. because apparently I should be editing anything ANYWHERE. drupal has the right idea but still kind of sucks at it.
Ruby On Rails is pretty cool but not alot of host uspport it.
my host (hostgator) supports it.. and when I used the console commands.. it ran
but when I tried the web page it didn't connect
casue you gotta connect to www.yourdomain.com:3000