Any experince with shallow mount subs?

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  1. psykosis

    psykosis Go placidly amid the noise and the haste

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    I'm considering putting one under the passenger seat so I can get my hatch space back. Looking at an Earthquake SWS, but I'd really like some feedback on it or other ultrathin subs.
     
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    Generally they aren't that loud, but do provide enough bass for normal, daily listening.
     
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    rockford fosgate's p3 shallow get pretty loud, and imo are the best sounding sub they've produced in the last 8 years. :dunno:

    pioneer has one that doesn't sound that bad either.
     
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    hell, we put a premier thin in a huge ported box and it boomed like a regular sub
     
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    What's the point of shallow mount if you put it in a regular sized box. :rofl:
     
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    noted. I'll check them out.
     
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    you get bored when you run a car audio shop
     
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    memphis has got some decent shallow stuff, or the rockfords nice too.
     
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    JL has the W5 if you wanna pay for it.
     
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    the other shop in town was telling a customer that since jl switched to the current factory, they were not shipping the shallows for awhile... we sold the guy some P3's shallows, and he went away a happy camper.
     
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    interesting, but more than I care to spend right now.
     
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    the memphis slim subs seem to have great reviews. may pick one of them up.

    now I just need to figure out if I can get a 3" box under my passenger seat...
     
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    There has to be a tradeoff, though. Conventional subs aren't as deep as they are just so they can be bigger and more cumbersome. My astounding engineering mind tells me the cone stiffness on shallow-mount subs must be shit compared to regular subs, so I'm not sure how that can be good for sound quality.
     
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    huh, i did not know that. interesting.

    yeah, Jack and Larry like to charge for their stuff.
    I know the memphis uses a woven cone material and a large dustcap to add rigidity to the surface. IIRC, the RFs are a plastic type cone. and I'm sure the JL is as well.
     
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    i have no idea if it's true, but we profitted off it.
     
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    they move pretty good after they break in... but yeah when fresh out of the box, the fosgate shallows are as stiff as the MTX RFL's were.
     
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    we've been getting a steady supply.
     
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    I hate to admit it, since you agreed with what I said, but you lost me. I thought flex was bad. I'm not talking about the surround, I'm talking about the cone itself. The shallower the angle of the cone, the easier it will be for the voice coil at the center of the cone to distort the shape of the cone as it pushes and pulls on it.
     
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    i thought you meant the motor itself... the cone themselves don't flex, most brands have figured out how to to make them rigid enough.
     
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    maybe they were just using it as an excuse, as to why they don't have the inventory... they've been bringing in a lot of flea market brands this past year.
     
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    I installed a Pioneer Shallow mount in a .6 cu.ft. FG box last year, in a cubby hole of a Range Rover.
    The customer was happier with its sound than his 12'' P2 in 1.2 cu.ft. sealed.

    I do like the looks of the Memphis shallow, but haven't heard it yet.
     
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    ya, i dont blame them, the retail on those suckers is north of 500 bucks. in my market, its an extremely popular application. The past weekend, I sold 3 of them.
     
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    I didn't think there were any moving parts in the motor to begin with -- just the voice coil "floating" in the air gap between the outer ring and central pillar of the magnet. Surely you're not saying the voice coil is flexible; that sounds like a terrible idea.

    So then what does flex? As far as I know, only the surround and the woven cloth dustcap on top of the voice coil can flex, unless the cone is shitty and/or pushed out farther than the surround can safely permit.
     

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