GUN Another school shooting averted by gun-free school zones. Oh wait.

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  1. Jurisbot Esq.

    Jurisbot Esq. Don't blame me I voted for Ron Paul. OT Supporter

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    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8S6HQDO1&show_article=1

    CLEVELAND (AP) - The mayor of Cleveland says three children were taken to a hospital after a gunman opened fire Wednesday at an alternative city school.

    "We have no reason to believe there's more than one suspect," Mayor Frank Jackson told reporters gathered outside the SuccessTech Academy. He also said the school had been secured, but he offered no other details.

    Ronnell Jackson, 15, said he saw a shooter running down a hall at SuccessTech Academy.

    "He was about to shoot me but I got out just in time," he said. "He was aiming at me I got out just in time."

    Another student, Doneisha LeVert, said she heard the principal say "Code Blue" over the public address system, and the students started running. She said she hid in a closet with some of her friends.

    Tammy Mundy, 38, who has a son and daughter at the school, told The Plain Dealer of Cleveland that her daughter called when the shooting started.

    "She said, 'Mom they're shooting in here, kids are running out, I'm hiding in the closet,'" Mundy told the newspaper.

    Then she called her 18-year-old son, Darnell Rodgers, on his cell phone, and he told her he had been shot in the arm.

    "He said, 'Mom I got shot,'" Mundy told the newspaper.

    The small, alternative high school is in the center of downtown across from the FBI's offices and three blocks from where the Cleveland Browns play football. The school enrolls students grades nine through 12 and emphasizes technology education.
     
  2. t1h

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    an "alternative" school emphasizes "technology education"?
     
  3. wetwillie

    wetwillie New Member

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    I heard on Glenn Beck last night that they are actuall providing access for swat teams in new school buildings. These are tunnels in the ceilings where swat can maneuver around. Glenn was like, "uh....why not let more teachers carry weapons?"
     
  4. skeletor25rs

    skeletor25rs Yetis & Deer

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  5. Platinum_Thunder

    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    That's just crazy talk
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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  7. wetwillie

    wetwillie New Member

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    which part?
     
  8. skeletor25rs

    skeletor25rs Yetis & Deer

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    Yeah, but. :hs:
     
  9. MTech

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    Five injured in Cleveland school shooting

    14-year-old suspect apparently killed himself after attack, police say


    MSNBC staff and news service reports
    Updated: 4:02 p.m. ET Oct. 10, 2007
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    CLEVELAND - A gunman opened fire in a downtown high school on Wednesday, and five people were taken to a hospital, the mayor said.
    The suspected shooter was killed by an apparent self-inflicted gunshot wound after the rampage, police said.
    Mayor Frank Jackson later said SuccessTech Academy had been secured, although police were searching floor by floor.

    "We have no reason to believe there's more than one suspect," Jackson told reporters gathered outside the school.
    The shooting victims include a 57-year-old male, a 42-year-old male, a 17-year-old male and a 14 year-old male, Jackson said. A fifth person, a 14-year-old girl, injured her knee, he said.
    Two of the victims were teachers, and three victims were taken to MetroHealth Center, WKYC reported. One shooting victim was taken to Rainbow Babies and Children's Hospital, WOIO-TV reported.
    A spokesperson for the MetroHealth Center said the 57-year-old is a teacher and is in good condition. Jackson said the students were in stable condition.
    The suspect, a 14-year-old freshman, was suspended earlier this week after getting into a fight with another student, several sources reported.
    The school's security guard was on vacation, WKYC reported, and two other full time security guards had been laid off in recent years.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21224357/
     
  10. Ebtromba

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    heard about this on the radio today.

    glad no one died.

    could have been alot worse. a helluva lot worse.
     
  11. wetwillie

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    yeah but just wait til the copycats come out
     
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    :rolleyes:
     
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    Like that would have made any difference if the guard was there?


    I doubt it...
     
  14. el capitan

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    hopefully the shooter wasn't carring a glock.... but then again this was a "alternative high school". i get so pissed when people say shit like " oh don't you have the same gun?" and then shoot you that awkward look. thank god he was holding the gun sideways or more people may have been injured.
     
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    I had one of my artists call me up (he lives in cleveland andhis friend works next to the school) supposedly the kid walked into the school with a gun in each hand..and he was white where as everybody in the school for the most part wasn't. It's a school for delinquents his friend said so Just venturing a guess here... White kid in black school...probably gets picked on/ass beat all the time. The local news was interviewing kids and they were all "yea he got his ass beat on monday fo realz" so needless to say the kid came back pissed and had enough of being picked on..

    This is most details I've found so far.. Somebody actually punched the kid in the face than he opened up fire...



    5 hurt, gunman killed in Ohio school


    CLEVELAND - A 14-year-old suspended student opened fire in his downtown high school Wednesday, wounding four people as terrified schoolmates hid in closets and bathrooms and huddled under laboratory desks. He then killed himself.

    A fellow student at SuccessTech Academy alternative school said Asa H. Coon, who was suspended for fighting two days earlier, had made threats in front of students and teachers last week.

    "He's crazy. He threatened to blow up our school. He threatened to stab everybody," Doneisha LeVert said. "We didn't think nothing of it."

    Armed with two revolvers, Coon fired eight shots and may have targeted teachers, Police Chief Michael McGrath said. Police found a duffel bag stocked with ammunition and three knives in a bathroom but found no suicide note, he said.

    Parents were angry that firearms got into a school equipped with metal detectors that students said were intermittently used.

    Coon had a history of mental health problems and threatened to commit suicide last year while in a mental health center, according to juvenile court records obtained by The Plain Dealer. He spent time in two juvenile facilities after a domestic violence episode and was also given home detention, and he was suspended from school last year for trying to injure a student, the paper reported.

    Officials said two teachers and two students were shot, and that a 14-year-old girl fell and hurt her knee while running out of the school.

    Witnesses said the shooter moved through the converted five-story downtown office building, working his way up through the first two floors of administrative offices to the third floor of classrooms. Officials said he was wearing a Marilyn Manson concert shirt, black jeans and black-painted finger nails.

    Police released audio from three 911 calls — two from students who had fled the building after the first two shots and one from a distraught mother, calling on behalf of her son, who was huddled in the back of a fourth floor classroom.

    "They just shot somebody in his room!" the crying mother told the dispatcher.

    The first person shot, 14-year-old student Michael Peek, had punched Coon in the face right before the shootings began, said student Rasheem Smith, 15.

    Coon "came out of the bathroom and bumped Mike and he (Mike) punched him in his face. Mike started walking. He shot Mike in the side," Smith said.

    Antonio Deberry, 17, said he and his classmates hid under laboratory tables and watched the shooter move down the hallway. "I saw him walking past. He didn't see us, we saw him." The shooter swore and shot several times, Deberry said.

    LeVert said she hid in a closet with two other students after she heard a "Code Blue" alert over the loudspeaker. She said she heard about 10 shots.

    Darnell Rodgers, 18, was walking up to another floor when the stairway suddenly became flooded with students.

    "It took me a couple of minutes to realize that I was actually shot, when I felt my arm burning in the area, that's when I realized that I had got shot," Rodgers said.

    "They were screaming, and they were saying, 'Oh my God, oh my God.' I knew something was wrong, but thought that it was probably just a fight, so I just kept going," Rodgers said.

    Rodgers was released from a hospital after treatment for a graze wound to his right elbow.

    Coon had been suspended since Monday for fighting near the school that day, said Charles Blackwell, president of SuccessTech's student-parent organization. He did not know how Coon got into the building Wednesday.

    Blackwell said that there was a security guard on the first floor, but that the position of another guard on the third floor had been eliminated.

    Student Frances Henderson, 14, said she often got into arguments with Coon, who once told her, "I got something for you all." He would often wear a trench coat, black boots and a dog collar, she said.

    Students stood outside the building, many in tears, hugging one another and .. phones. Others shouted at reporters with TV cameras to leave them alone. Family members also stood outside, waiting for their children to be released.

    Math teacher David Kachadourian, 57, was treated and released for a minor wound to the back of one shoulder, according to Metro Health Medical Center. Michael Grassie, a 42-year-old history teacher, was in fair condition at the hospital after about two hours of surgery. The hospital would not disclose the nature of the surgery.

    The other two injured teens were taken to a children's hospital, which would not release their names, ages or conditions.

    People at Coon's home declined to comment Wednesday evening.

    Deberry's mother, Lakisha Deberry, said she was upset that metal detectors at the school were not always in use.

    "You never know what's going on in someone's mind," said Deberry, adding that she was required to go through a metal detector and present an identification card whenever she wanted to drop off something at school for her children.

    The shooting occurred across the street from the FBI office in downtown Cleveland, and students were being sent to the FBI site.

    Classes at all schools in the Cleveland Metropolitan School District will be canceled Thursday, said Eugene Sanders, chief executive officer of the district. Counseling will be available Thursday for students at recreation centers throughout the city, Sanders said.

    SuccessTech Academy is an alternative high school in the public school district that stresses technology and entrepreneurship. It is housed on several floors of the district's downtown Cleveland Lakeside Avenue administration building.

    "It's a shining beacon for the Cleveland Metropolitan School system," said John Zitzner, founder and president of E City Cleveland, a nonprofit group aimed at teaching business skills to inner-city teens. "It's orderly, it's disciplined, it's calm, it's focused."

    The school has about 240 students, most of them black, with a small number of white and Hispanic students.

    Coon was white, and Henderson, the student who said she frequently argued with him, is black, but she said she didn't believe race played a role in the shootings.

    The school, opened five years ago, ranks in the middle of the state's ratings for student performance. Its graduation rate is 94 percent, well above the district's rate of 55 percent.

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    Associated Press writers James Hannah, Terry Kinney, M.R. Kropko, John Seewer, Thomas J. Sheeran and Andrew Welsh-Huggins contributed to this report.
     
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  16. Soybomb

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    I wonder if the anti's can take this as a lesson that isn't about assault revolvers, its about crazy people doing whatever they like to helpless people.
     
  17. JaimeZX

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    Ban kids in trenchcoats & dog collars.
     
  18. wetwillie

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    Ya know, I would hope the media highlights the fact that the school had a security guard AND metal detectors and it still didn't prevent anything. My co-worker was just saying he thought the way to secure schools is with metal detectors, guards and cameras. lol...I'm going to give him that latest article.
     

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