Am i going to get anywhere with this diet? feedback apperciated

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  1. quamen

    quamen New Member

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    I know my diet is most likely fucked up, so i am looking for some input on changes, or just a new diet in general. I don't eat alot of dairy products, because I have milk allergy's . I can only use it in moderation. I am 6'2" 182lbs. Trying to clean bulk

    Meal 1
    Amount Food Item
    1 scoop(s) 100% Whey Protein - Chocolate
    1 medium (2-3/4" dia) (approx 3 per lb) Apples, with skin
    1 cup, cooked oats, instant, fortified, plain
    2 tbsp Peanut butter, smooth style, with salt
    Meal 2
    Amount Food Item
    1 medium (7" to 7-7/8" long) Bananas
    0.5 cup, chopped Peanuts, all types, oil-roasted, with salt
    Meal 3
    Amount Food Item
    1 cup Beans, snap, green, raw
    0.5 unit (yield from 1 lb ready-to-cook chicken) Chicken, meat only, raw
    0.7 cup Potatoes, mashed, dehydrated, prepared from flakes without milk, whole milk and butter added
    0.5 cup pieces Turkey bacon, cooked
    Meal 4
    Amount Food Item
    1 scoop(s) 100% Whey Protein - Chocolate
    1 medium (2-3/4" dia) (approx 3 per lb) Apples, with skin
    2 slice Bread, rye
    1 can Tuna, light, canned in water
    Meal 5
    Amount Food Item
    1 scoop(s) 100% Whey Protein - Chocolate
    1 cup Beans, snap, green, raw
    0.5 cup, chopped Broccoli, raw
    0.5 cup, chopped Carrots, raw
    0.5 unit (yield from 1 lb ready-to-cook chicken) Chicken, meat only, raw
    2 tablespoon Oil, olive, salad or cooking
    0.5 cup Rice, brown, medium-grain
    4 tbsp Salad dressing, caesar dressing, regular
    Meal 6
    Amount Food Item
    2 scoop(s) 100% Whey Protein - Chocolate
    1 medium (7" to 7-7/8" long) Bananas
    0.5 cup, cooked oats, instant, fortified, plain
    Meal 7
    Amount Food Item
    0.4 cup, chopped Nuts, walnuts, english


    Burned today: 1951
    Eaten today: 3683

    Nutrition Breakdown

    Carbs: 35.1%
    Proteins: 38.8%
    Fat: 26.1% i dont know if that burned calorie is right at all, this is coming from the gnc fitness planner.
     
  2. smb is me

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    Quamen's post, as it should have been presented

    I know my diet is most likely fucked up, so i am looking for some input on changes, or just a new diet in general. I don't eat alot of dairy products, because I have milk allergy's . I can only use it in moderation. I am 6'2" 182lbs. Trying to clean bulk

    Meal 1
    1 scoop Whey Protein
    1 Apples
    1 cup oats
    2 tbsp Peanut butter (natty?)

    Morning Snack
    1 Bananas
    0.5 cup Peanuts

    Meal 2
    1 cup Beans raw
    0.5 unit Chicken raw--(why raw, what the fuck unit?)
    0.7 cup powdered Potatoes--with milk and butter
    0.5 cup Turkey bacon-should be expressed in grams or % of servings

    Meal 3
    1 scoop Whey Protein
    1 Apples
    2 slice rye bread
    1 can Tuna

    Meal 4
    1 scoop Whey Protein
    1 cup Beans raw
    0.5 cup Broccoli
    0.5 cup Carrots
    0.5 unit Chicken raw
    2 tablespoon Olive Oil
    0.5 cup Brown Rice
    4 tbsp Ceaser Dressing

    Meal 5
    2 scoops Whey Protein
    1 Bananas
    0.5 cup Oats

    Nighttime Snack
    0.4 cup Walnuts


    Burned today: 1951
    Eaten today: 3683

    Nutrition Breakdown

    Calories: 3683
    Next 3 should be listed in grams each. with percentage breakdowns additional if you so choose.
    Carbs: 35.1%
    Proteins: 38.8%
    Fat: 26.1% i dont know if that burned calorie is right at all, this is coming from the gnc fitness planner.


    You are most welcome....from now on follow something similar to this format.

    :bowdown: = ME
     
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    MOREP ROTEIN
     
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    ill check into the bacon thanks for editing.
     
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    Advice:

    Depends on how "into it" you want to get. Its not going to make a world of difference, but common bodybuilding logic tells us that your meals should be:

    Protein + fats (2nd half the day)
    Protein + carbs (mornings and pre/post workout)

    So if you just wanted to reorganize your the same foods more effectively: put that banana with your breakfast, and put that pb with your morning snack. I wouldn't make my last meal of the day oatmeal.

    If you are eating 3600 cals a day, do 6 meals of 600 cals(or you can do 5 meals of 600 cals and two 300 cal snacks throughout the day).

    Meals heavy in carbs should be: Breakfast and pre/post workout carbs.
    Meals for 2nd half of the day should be Protein+fats meals.

    If you don't want to get that into it, just do like tumbles said, make sure you are getting more protein. I'd recommend 2 servings of meat with every meal that doesn't contain whey protein. And at least 1 scoop of whey with every meal that doesn't contain meat.

    Make sure your post workout meal is one of the ones that contains 2 scoops of whey, as it is faster acting then protein consumed from REAL FOOD.

    note: I believe timber doesn't concern himself with the idea of either carbs or fats bot not both in a given meal. which goes to show that its not an iron clad rule, just the generally accepted principle of designing meal plans.

    you'll notice, for the most part my meals are either:
    protein and carbs.
    protein and fats.

    Carbs early in the day.
    This isn't the best day to use as an example, b/c i decided I wanted an apple for desert on both my lunches, lol.
     
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    really appreciate the reply. Yes i really want to get into it, and got kinda worried when i stopped the carbs later in the day. My friend advised me of the same idea, and i dropped about 7lbs in 2 weeks from doing this. I believe some did come from the midsection, but i can't be completely sure, I was just worried about the weight loss.
     
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    Less water weight, and you'll bulk up leaner, meaning you'll have to spend less time cutting in the future. (and everyone knows bulking is 100x better than cutting).

    For sure drop them from your last meal of the day--last 2 if possible.

    Since you're bulking you can be a little more lenient than i'd otherwise suggest. Hell, i've been carbing it up myself (300-350 per day), which means more carbs with more meals. Just choose good carb sources (looks like you already are: brown rice, beans, yams, etc.. for standard meals. see stickies.)

    And do try and arrange your higher fat meals without carbs in them for the most part. But if you want to cheat and throw a banana in with PB, i'm guilty of it too--shit tastes good together.
     
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    what the fuck is raw chicken?
     
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    It is basically skinless boneless chicken that hasn't been cooked yet according to the gnc fitness planner.
     
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    I am assuming that most serviings for each brand are the same. Like you say three serving oatmeal, i am assuming that is about 1 1/2 cups? also one serviing of rice, 2/3 cup?


    thanks makes alot of sense. I like your meal plan alot. I was looking at Frank Dux and i cannot tolerate that much food in one sitting, so that was out for me.
     
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    so you eat raw, cold chicken? ever hear of salmonella?
     
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    if i ate raw chicken 2-3 times a day i would likely be dead or deathly sick. That is what they list it on the menu to pick from, I cook it. Had salmonella poising once, and dont even want to remember those few days of hell.
     
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    also is there anything i can substitute the eggs for? Sounds retarded, but every time i eat eggs, i get a shit load of acne.
     
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    he must be a follower of the finger man
     
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    green beans the best for you or what, seems like u eat alot of servings of those.
     
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    haha, i love me some green beans (dethawed, uncooked). I also mix it up with broccoli, cabbage, baby spinach, etc......

    But of all of them, green beans are my favorite (and the easiest to buy in bulk and stack in my small freezer). but green beans aren't really better than any other green vegetable. I just like them b/c they are more compact and sweeter than broccoli or asparagus or whatever.

    As for replacement for eggs:
    egg whites (1 cup) 120 cals 25g prot 4g carb
    most protein powder: 120cals 25g pro 4g carb
    chicken 4oz: 110 cals, 22g pro, 2-3g carbs
    Turkey burger: 200 cals 35g pro 4-6g carbs

    so i like eggwhites b/c they are basically the same macro nutrients as protein shakes. and whole eggs b/c when u are eating eggwhites in need a source of fat in your meal, what makes more sense than throwing in a couple whole eggs and getting the good fats in the yolk?

    but you can replace eggwhites with other sources of protein and then get your healthy fats from any of the numerous other sources--easily found in the stickies or on google (flax seed oil, olive oil, almonds, walnuts, pecans, natty pb, etc....)
     
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    why not just eat the whole egg
     
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    A lot of whey and not enough whole foods.

    I'd drop some fat add some carbs and get better sources of protein.
     
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    appreicate all the comments, already took them all into consideration and reworking my diet, i let you guys know how i make out.
     
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    You might want to copy this over from the gnc planner you're using into something like FitDay or DailyBurn. It'll probably easier to mange in the long run and make modifications to if you want to add some slight variations. It should also give you better breakdowns, the gram totals as well as percentage composition, etc.
     
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