GUN Always make sure your guns are unloaded

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  1. spankaveli

    spankaveli OT Supporter

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    especially when showing people why you should make sure your guns are unloaded.

    :rofl:

    http://www.nbcdfw.com/news/weird/Gun-Safety-Demo-Turns-Tragic.html


    Gun Safety Demo Turns Tragic Arizona man shoots himself in head in front of stunned onlookers

    An Arizona gun safety session went awry when the instructor thought his gun was empty and killed himself.

    An Arizona man killed himself early Sunday while demonstrating gun safety techniques.

    Samuel Benally, 26, of Phoenix, was in an apartment with the two witnesses when he told them guns should be kept unloaded because people could point them at their heads, Sierra Vista police Sgt. Brett Mitchell told the Arizona Star.

    Benally put his own 9mm Ruger, which he thought was unloaded, to his head and fired, Mitchell said. He was flown to University Medical Center, where he was pronounced dead, Mitchell said.

    An investigation is ongoing, but police do not believe alcohol or drugs were involved, Mitchell said.
     
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    Prob not so funny.:ugh:
     
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    I guess he really wanted to drive home the lesson.
     
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    Out of my mind, brb never.
    Wow, what safety demonstration is complete without pointing a gun at your own head, and thereby demonstrating that there is no such thing as an unloaded gun?
     
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    I know this sounds really bad but either this dude was a grade-A fucking retard and deserved to die or he wanted to kill himself and used this as an excuse so it wouldn't look like a suicide.
     
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    He violated so many safety rules it's not even funny.

    Edit: But it is.
     
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    Any chance he thought his pistol just wouldn't fire? It was a Ruger after all. :ugh:
     
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    lol at that guy
     
  11. I bet the people that were there for that lesson won't forget to make sure their pistols are unloaded now.
     
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    and to treat a gun like it's always loaded...unless you've had God himself stick his finger in the chamber and verify through a choir of angels AND Alan Rickman as the Metatron that it's empty before sticking it to your head and squeezing the trigger.
     
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    Sounds like he violated all 4 rules.
     
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    We had a guy on one of the local car boards shoot himself in the hand last night.
     
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    dumb motherfuckers like this deserve to shoot themselves in the head.
    Also, the media calling this guy a 'gun safety expert' makes us all look bad.

    The 4 firearms rules are always in effect, range or otherwise:
    1, All firearms are always loaded
    2, keep your finger off the trigger until your eyes are on the sights/target and you have made the decision to shoot.
    3, Be aware of the target and what is beyond/around it.
    4, DON'T point your gun at anything you are not willing to destroy.

    just for posterity, even though I preach to the choir.
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    Sounds more like a suicide than anything

    Also what about loaded chamber indicators? Arent those fail proof?
     
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    the mind is the safety,
    If you treat all guns as if they are always loaded, you won't point the bitch at your head.

    Loaded chamber indicators are useful instead of press checks, and not all gats have one.
     
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    instead of?
     
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    Out of my mind, brb never.
    I learned those 4 golden rules of gun safety from my father when I was 4, and I have never forgotten them, or failed to follow them in the 20 years following my first introduction to firearms. I also never miss an opportunity to teach them to a person who goes shooting with me. I WILL NOT go shooting with someone again if they dont follow said rules. I have turned down a few people because of this. Its not worth it.
     
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    Why would you ever, ever, ever point a gun at yourself and pull the trigger?
     
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    In addition to.
    Either way.
    Sometimes just to confirm I'll slide the roscoe out of the holster, feel for the nub on the slide, and slide it back in.
     
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    easy way to get yourself or someone else killed imo. push press doesn't take all that much time and is alot more reliable than a chamber indicator.
     
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    how would anyone die if I'm doing the 4 rules? which rule do I break here?

    If I am in a permissive environment(house, range, etc), I'll do the press check and feel for brass. If I'm in my car, about to get out, and see a roving band of knuckleheads, I'll feel for the nub.
     
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    LancerV Something Happened OT Supporter

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    If you've already done the press check before holstering you dont need to do it again when you draw.

    Unless somehow someone magically racked your slide, unchamber the round, and than took out your magazine before letting the slide go forward, and than put your magazine back in while its attached to your body or locked up in a secure place
     
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    nah dude, once I holster up, I know.

    I must have been unclear about the circumstances. I do it as an administrative thing when I put my gun on in the morning. I NEVER would do it when it was business time. Sorry if i was unclear. I have rare times when I say to myself, 'hmm I wonder if I'm loaded up' and I check. But 99% of the time, I know.

    it's an OCD thing i guess.
     

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