All this nutrition stuff is getting overwhelming.

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  1. OrionDartanyu

    OrionDartanyu I don't think I'm as revolutionary as Galileo, but

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    I've been lurking FN for a week or so just trying to get some information and I think I'm just saturating myself with WAY too much information, and it's creating a contradiction.

    Basically my goals aren't to become broly, but to just be healthy and develop some strength as well. If the strength is visible or not, that I don't care about so much. But i do at least want my stomach line a bit smaller to get a slight visible ab line. But beyond that I'm not looking to bulk up really.

    My main goal is actually cardio endurance as I want to run a marathon. And I'm not going to drop money on a gym membership until I can ensure that I keep with this program (I'm pretty poor). So for my training I'm using my apartments center which has a treadmill and a cable system for resistance training.

    So with my goals I thought I developed a diet through the material I read, but now today after working out I've come back and read things that seem to contradict what I thought was correct.

    I'm 5'11" 153 pounds.

    My original plan was:

    2086 calorie diet for cutting the waistline for some visible abs

    65% carb = 339g
    24% protein = 123g
    11% fat = 26g

    But now today I've been reading that carbs should NOT be the bulk of the diet. Now I know there's so many different schools of thought out there on this, but all the information I read seems to be 'right' (judging by the sources) but all the information I'm reading seems to just go against the other article.

    Is there one solid school of thought to go by to just eat clean and become healthy? Again, I'm not looking to showcase my body, just feel better.
     
  2. maks

    maks Bah! t(-_-t)

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    There are alot of different ways to achieve the same goal.

    Pick one and stick to it....it doesn't have to be the latest or supposedly best plan, just make sure its a plan you can handle and that it matches your end goal.
     
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    If you're running a ton then the carbs are fine.
     
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    Protein and fat should be higher.

    Maybe try to shoot for 200c;180p;45f

    Either way I think your carbs are too high IMO and you'll find it quite difficult to only consume 26g fat.

    I'd have a tougher time doing that than consuming less than 26g carbs.
     
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    if you're going to be doing alot of running i think you'd need a higher carb diet such as what you're planning, with the small amount of cardio that i do i keep my carbs around 33% (but if i was running a few miles a day better believe it would be higher)
     
  6. OrionDartanyu

    OrionDartanyu I don't think I'm as revolutionary as Galileo, but

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    So keeping a higher carb diet is not bad for running alot? Makes sense... just wanted some feed back since everything was swirling around in my head. Jesus you guys have a shit ton of reading material on here :eek3:
     
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    Show me a runner who eats 180p and 200c.
     
  8. OrionDartanyu

    OrionDartanyu I don't think I'm as revolutionary as Galileo, but

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    Noooo more contradictions, lolol. What might you suggest? lower protein and higher carbs?
     
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    0.8g/kg is enough to cover your needs if you don't lift. If you do, 1.8g/kg (a little less than 1g/lb) can provide benefits as far as muscle building goes. Dieting puts stress on your body though, so it should be better to provide a little more than what you should be getting to avoid deficiency. Anything around 1g/lb is good I think and you'll make sure to get more than you need.
     
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    Why don't you run outside since you live in a warm client?
     
  11. BlackIce72

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    Well how much is he currently running?

    I want to run a marathon one day but I don't have 350c.

    If he's doing long distance right now then go for a lot of carbs.

    Up the carbs when he ups the endurance/distance.

    Fuck I run ~2 miles (doing HIIT) a few times a week, have 2100-2400cals, and <80g carbs a day and I'm fine -- but I'm also cutting.

    Overall, I'd agree with you that runners need a lot more carbs, but we honestly don't know how much he's currently running.
     
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    when i was riding my bike, i was eating 200p and 100c :eek3:
     
  13. OrionDartanyu

    OrionDartanyu I don't think I'm as revolutionary as Galileo, but

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    training i run on the treadmill. test days i run outside.
     
  14. OrionDartanyu

    OrionDartanyu I don't think I'm as revolutionary as Galileo, but

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    generally 3-5 mi a day.
     
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