MMA Alexey Olenik has 8 sub wins by ezekiel from INSIDE the guard? wtf

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  1. chechen

    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    man he's got a lot of ezekiel wins.
    question about those. This one 9 year old kid that trains with us competes a lot and gets a lot of wins using them in NoGI. His last no gi tournament (NAGA) he won using the choke but the other kids coach freaked out and now NAGA is banning it as a neck crank. Is it a choke or a crank, always kinda cranks/chokes me when it's applied to me in NoGI so i can't really tell.
     
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    and just for lulz heres the coach freaking out at the referee at NAGA

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    oh and how would you defend that if somebody did that to you in the guard?
     
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    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    you seem to have missed the entire point of the thread.

    that choke freaking sucks in no gi. ESPECIALLY form that position

    its a miracle he got it even once. The guys he did it on (at least in those two videos) just kinda sit there and dont even fight it :rofl:
     
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    i've tapped to it when mounted. How would you defend it if somebody applied it to you though? i just don't know...
     
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    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    from inside the guard you just put some butterfly hooks and try to roll the guy over.. or put your feet on his hips and push.. it shouldnt really be that hard.

    it's a little harder to escape when youre mounted but not by much. its more of distraction in no gi.. not a really good finish unless youre a beginner
     
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    thanks :coold:

    all the people he got with the choke have a combine record of 77-50 lol
     
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    Dude aren't you a purple belt?
     
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    no I'm a blue, i just never knew the defense sheesh, the times i got caught with it was mostly by my instructor and he's gotten those on purps and browns before
     
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    he got a no gi ezekiel from inside the guard on a brown belt? :rofl:
     
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    not inside the guard. it was from mount on Rhalan.

    and nobody has ever done it to me from inside the guard. I wasn't even referring to that in the original question.
     
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    it's pretty crazy though how the guy can get a win like that over somebody like Jessie Gibbs who's beaten legit opponents before
     
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    chechen Brazilian Jiu Jitsu OT Supporter

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    he subbed him with a no gi ezekiel?
     
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    it's his thing i guess, just like the 5 and 10 finger guillotines. He uses it alot with the gi too

    although i have to add that this was at a seminar so they could have just been fucking around but it didn't look like it
     
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    jessie gibbs is apparently a brown belt in BJJ as well. did that Olenik guy get it on him from inside the guard?

    edit: found the vid it was from half guard. Pretty crazy. Although it looks like he gave up more than submitted
    http://www.mmaplayground.com/mma-videos/video/alexey-oleinik-vs-jessie-gibbs-m-1-challenge-4810.html

    2nd edit:
    Jessie Gibbs's Brown Belt BJJ matches
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLJrV-tsqdY
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KF_TTRe8Wv4
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THg1eBE8g8Q
     
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    This guy should buy a lottery ticket, jesus.
     
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    Maybe he was on vacation that day
     
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    I find that when I get it on people and it's shallow....it turns into a bit of a neck crank. When I get it in deep...it's a massive choke. I only roll gi in class though so it's different than no-gi.
     
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    hilarious how the kid backs off like the coach is gonna turn around and rage case on the kid
     
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    That's with like every choke though. If you pull hard and you don't have it deep, it'll turn into a weak crank just cause you're pulling so hard.
     
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    NAGA considered it a neck crank, because usually the choke goes across the front and back of the neck (as opposed to jugular like most others. You end up feeling it in the neck/getting your neck hurt or popped before it chokes you.

    Adult divisions (nogi) go for it, but kids can't play that rough yet.
     

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