GUN AK-47s good for business

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  1. TL1000RSquid

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    http://www.heraldonline.com/109/story/82911.html
    Merchants: AK-47s good for business
    Critics fear powerful rifles might land in wrong hands
    By Adam O'Daniel · [email protected]
    Updated 07/26/07 - 12:04 AM

    The same type of gun commonly used by Iraqi security forces is legally being sold to civilians in Rock Hill.

    Surprised? Don't be. It's been happening for years in York County, and more stores are offering AK-47 assault rifles as their popularity grows among collectors since federal restrictions on their sales were lifted in 2004.

    But law enforcement officials say they've found shell casings at crime scenes recently, and gun-control advocates claim the guns weren't designed for retail sale.

    Take a drive along Cherry Road, and you'll see David's Pawn Shop advertising the weapons on its marquee, "AK-47s Now In Stock." Owner David Dresner said he started selling the Romanian-made weapon recently, and it's been a big hit with collectors and for those taking target practice. Some individuals also use the guns for hunting, he said.

    David's is one of the first pawn shops in the area to start selling the guns, he said. Larger gun dealers including Nichols Store southeast of Rock Hill and the Sportsman in Newport have been selling the weapons for years, clerks at both stores said.

    "We've sold a bunch of them," Dresner said, estimating he sells four or five AK-47s each week. "I've been surprised at how well they've sold."

    Dresner said the AK-47 he sells is a semi-automatic rifle just like the ones used by Iraqi police allied with U.S. troops in the Middle East. It looks similar to the famed Russian AK-47, a fully automatic machine gun made popular during the Cold War. Those guns, however, are only sold to individuals specially licensed by the Department of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, he said. And they carry a $25,000 price tag.

    Priced from $550 to $800

    The assault rifles Dresner and other local dealers offer are priced between $550 and $800. State law also requires a mandatory background check before the gun can be sold -- just like any other gun sale -- that takes between 20 minutes and three days.

    From 1994 to 2004, a federal ban on assault weapons, including AK-47s, limited the kinds of guns dealers could sell. Dresner said the AK-47 was still sold, but only with magazines that held three rounds or less. The ban expired in 2004 and the guns can now be purchased with up to 100 round drums, Dresner said.

    And they can be fired "as fast as you can pull the trigger," he said.

    That's the main reason gun-control advocates are concerned about the sale of assault weapons. They claim the guns were manufactured for killing people, not any other reason.

    "AK-47s should not be available for sale. There's really no argument," said Zach Ragbourn, a spokesman for the Brady Campaign, the nation's leading gun-control lobby. "They're designed to attack people, period. They're not for hunting or a fun collector's item."
    :ugh:

    Ragbourn said the term "assault weapon" was coined by the gun industry years ago as a marketing tool. He said any weapon capable of firing multiple rounds in a split second shouldn't be offered on store shelves.

    "A 100-round magazine is not a cosmetic feature," he said. "It's nothing but a bunch of lead in the air in a short amount of time."

    Ragbourn said lobbyists are pushing lawmakers to reinstate the assault weapon ban.

    Locally, Lt. Les Herring of the Rock Hill Police Department said several shell casings from the high-powered rifles have turned up at crime scenes recently. He said there are two or three unsolved shootings, none fatal, where investigators found the bullet shells.

    "We know people are shooting them, but that's about all we know," he said.

    Herring said there isn't any data that suggests more assault weapons are used for violent crimes now than before the weapons ban expired. However, any time a weapon capable of firing rounds quickly is in the hands of a criminal, it's a concern, he said.

    "People who want one will go wherever they have to in order to get one," Herring said, adding that before the guns were sold locally, people would travel to other places to make purchases. "The threat's always been out there. We've always had that concern."

    Dresner doesn't believe the guns he sells are going directly into the hands of criminals. He said the background checks and clientele he sees on a regular basis suggest otherwise.

    "It's just a souvenir, to be able to say, 'I've got an AK-47,'" Dresner said. "I bet 90 percent of the people who buy it won't even shoot the first bullet."

    When he thinks a gun may end up in the wrong hands, Dresner refuses the sale, he said. Recently, a man passed a background check to purchase a handgun, but Dresner overheard him joking with a friend that he was going to use the gun for violence.

    "I said, 'Sorry buddy. You just talked your way out of this gun,'" Dresner said. "It's not worth it to have that on your conscious."

    Dresner said most guns used in violent crimes are bought illegally or stolen from a responsible owner.

    "Could it get into the wrong hands? I guess," he said about the AK-47s. "But the average person who buys it is legit."
     
  2. Paul Revere

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    good article except that retard anti.

    ok buddy.
     
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    i know rite?

    "we dont have proof they're being used in crime, but they're bad guns anyways and should be banned 100%"
     
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    KNYTE I'm Not Kidding.

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    Wow, that's a very unbiased and fair article.
     
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    it DOES offer two perspectives on the issue :dunno:

    edit: is that sarcasm?
     
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    :rolleyes: I have more fun collecting them then I think I do shooting them :hs:
     
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    I just got a bunch of Bulgy Circle-10s. :wiggle:
     
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    How much? I wish I had more but I haven't found any prices that I want to pay for them. I really wish I had of gotten in on that deal Ohio Rapid Fire was having. A dozen for like 70 bucks :(
     
  11. Dumbstixlars

    Dumbstixlars Ron Paul/AR-15/Glock/old car/Scooby/R/C croo OT Supporter

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    It's great how people are afraid of a chunk of metal/plastic/wood.
     
  12. vettefan52

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    no place in collections? yeah, because there is absolutely NO history in the ak47 series of rifles... yeah, none whatsoever.

    and yeah, why would you hunt with a RIFLE... minus whale buy one of those stupid ass hunting pistols... that'll learn em
     
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    The dealer sounds like a cool guy. Half the time, the dealers will say stupid things like the guy in the Brady Campaign said.
     
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    Aequitas If it keeps on raining, levee's going to break.

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    Why can't these people understand that an ak47 was just as easy to get in 2003 as it was in 2005?:uh:
     
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    Dumbstixlars Ron Paul/AR-15/Glock/old car/Scooby/R/C croo OT Supporter

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    I saw them on the shelves in 2001.
     
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    Ah yes ... the Brady Campaign. The same group of well-informed folks that declared the 30-30 a "high-powered sniper round" that was just too lethal and dangerous to be in the hands of the general public ... shit, you could like level a city block with a just few 30-30 rounds.
     
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    I swapped them for a bunch of -74 Bakelites that I got a few years ago, so figure the cash sum was about $3 per mag. :bigthumb:

    $20 per mag is pricey for AK mags, but look at it this way; you could have a H&K to feed.
     
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    haha, I pass that store every few weeks and almost stopped to take a pic the first time I saw the sign "AK-47's IN STOCK"

    And I love how the anti's jump to the conclusion that the only possible use for a given rifle is for killing people. It's amazing, like one piece of lead is different from another once it's in the air.
     
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    Well...he is right. The AK-47 was designed to kill people, it was designed specifically as a military weapon.

    Does that mean it cannot have other uses? No.

    Does that mean I shouldn't be allowed to own a gun designed to kill someone? No

    Just because a tool is designed to cause death, be it a bad person, game for food, or paper for practice and sport, doesn't mean that we shouldn't be allowed to own it. Death is all around us, and I think the biggest problem anti's have is accepting the fact that people want to own a tool that is designed to cause death.

    I think that they have a problem accepting death, not weapons. Because like we all know a gun is just a tool. It depends on the person if it will be used to stop an oppression on good people, or used to oppress a minority. It is up to the individual user if it is to be used to ward off criminals in the night, or if it will be used to shoot someone in order to steal.


    Guns are designed to kill. It's true, and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that. It's a matter of justifying the death they cause for good or evil.
     
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    fuck you nga
     
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    kellyclan She only loves you when she's drunk.

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    Further correction;

    Guns are designed to shoot bullets. Much the same way a hammer is designed to drive nails or a saw is designed to cut material.

    If we didn't use hammers for building..... [​IMG]
     
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    :rofl: good fucking point
     
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    I think they just have a hard time accepting other people and their opinions. Perfect example of that open-mindedness they're a;ways talking about.
     
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    True...but you could characterize the whole left that way.

    "LISTEN TO ME MOTHER FUCKER WE ALL HAVE OPINIONS, LISTEN TO ME I'M RIGHT!!!!!!(lc)"
     

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