MIL Airman the title versus Airman the rank

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  1. Short Bus

    Short Bus Beep beep!

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    At times it seems as if high level Air Force leaders are 100% disconnected from the rest of the world. The newest "buzz" is the change from referencing individual Air Force members as 'troops' to 'airman.' About eight years ago there was an "official" battle-cry change from "hua!" to "airpower!" Of course, most of us laughed at this, how fucking cheesy can you get?

    The Air Force tells us to be proud of Air Force history. But at the same time it seems as if Air Force leadership is doing everything it can to make us as much not like the Army as possible. Maybe somebody needs to remind leadership that the Air Force was created by the Army, and we're here to support the Army. Through the years the Air Force has taken on unique missions, but in the end wars are won by the guys on the ground, it's the guys in the air who support them. Anyway, I digress...

    This change from 'troops' to 'airman' is equally misguided. It seems as though the Air Force is attempting to find a title of honor for it's members, much like members of the Army are typically referred to as 'soldiers' and those in the Marine Corps are 'marines.'

    The #1 problem with this change is that in the Marine Corps, the rank of E-1 is not "marine basic" and E-2 through E-4 are also not referred to as "marine first class" or "senior marine" or whatever. Psychologically members of the Marine Corps do not have to separate the junior enlisted 'marine' title from the NCO and officer ranks.

    In the Air Force when you say 'airman' you typically think "crusty, wet behind the ears punk." In other, smaller circles you might actually think of a flier, but this is the minority.

    It's always going to be this way until the Air Force changes the names of the E-1 through E-4 ranks. No sergeant, chief, leutenant, colonel, or whatever is going to answer to somebody who calls them an 'airman.'
     
  2. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    Agreed
     
  3. kidhero

    kidhero not really a hero, really just a big fat phony

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    you're trying to compare marines with the air force



















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    this is fucking gay
     
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    scottiemac It's time to shoot some hot dogs!

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  5. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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  6. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    and you're a marine?
     
  7. kidhero

    kidhero not really a hero, really just a big fat phony

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    i get hard everytime someone says "devil", "jarhead", "devildog", and "Marine"
     
  8. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    ACCORD?!! :eek3:.
     
  9. kidhero

    kidhero not really a hero, really just a big fat phony

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    i also get hard everytime i look down and see my nametape and the US MARINES
     
  10. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    how did accord get kidhero's pw?
     
  11. kidhero

    kidhero not really a hero, really just a big fat phony

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    i like to find all the EGA's that hidden in my cammies too, it's like a big game of finding waldo

    so far there's 3 on my blouse and 4 on my trousers
     
  12. Short Bus

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    I'm not comparing the Air Force to the Marines. I was using the Marines as an example. As a member of the Marine Corps, you are know as a marine. You take pride in the title of 'marine.' At the moment, Air Force members don't have an equivalent title. The Air Force leadership is attempting to create a title for it's members to go by.
     
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    I get hard every time I realize that I'm in the Air Force and that I don't have to eat dirt for a living. :fawk:
     
  14. ManinCamo

    ManinCamo I wear big boy pants.

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  15. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    :werd: and then CE comes and opens all the dampeners and allows 100% humidity in your office. Now the papers feel damp and rip easily.
     
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    kidhero not really a hero, really just a big fat phony

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    i just peeled off a piece of my dead skin the size of my feet
     
  17. Jyokker

    Jyokker The trouser snake is very aggressive. It will corn

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    did you eat it?
     
  18. Ranger-AO

    Ranger-AO I'm here for the Taliban party. Moderator

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    I don't understand. When I was in the AF (admittedly it was probably before any of you were born) we referred to each other as "Airman".

    has that changed to a large degree since around 1983? And if so, what do you call each other now? :dunno:
     
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    its only becuase we hate comm........and thats all HVAC not CE
     
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    Ranger-AO I'm here for the Taliban party. Moderator

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    You had not posted in this thread when I said that. :fawk:

    Do you even have grey hair on your ballsack yet? :coolugh:
     
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    and in doing so make us a joke :(
     
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    If by grayhair on my ballsack...you mean coated in white goldbond...then yes...but on a side note...I've been seeing gray on the head more often lately...aw hell.
     
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    I see your point and I think that you Airforce screwed themselves by trying to create that title of reference...and/or by having odd ranks that seem like they're self-gratiating.

    What's your rank...I'm a "Private" and yours? "I'm a Lance Corporal" and yours? "I'm an Airman"...no no...what's your rank...not your job..."Airman..."

    The titles of Soldier / Sailor / Airman / Marine have always been there ...and I suppose the ranks have been too...but it's a position the Air Force created themselves.

    I'd just resort to "Hey Hero" or "Homefries" that works well too.
     

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