Advice needed..cutting but losing muscle

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  1. England

    England New Member

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    So I have been watching my diet for a while now, and working out everyday around 6am at the gym at work.

    I do cardio for 45mins on cardio only days at a low intensity because aim is to cut. On weight days, I do cardio for 30 mins and then weights.

    So in otherwords, cardio everyday, and weights every other day.

    I take my whey iso burst protein shake after the workout. I also started taking EC stack 2 weeks ago:

    3 Es at 8mg and 1 C at 200mg twice a day. Should I increase the dosage?

    The problem here is I seem to be losing muscle. I am not looking to bulk anyway, I just want a well toned muscle and a good endurance body.

    Help and suggestions
     
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    eat more food
     
  3. Mitchj

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    how much weight are you losing per week?

    You didnt post calorie levels
     
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    My breakfast consists of oatmeal, 2 eggs whites and a cup of green tea 1 day and the next scrabbled eggs, home fries potatoes with bacon. Lunch is usually salad/steam veggies with chicken breast, fish or beef and a cup of water/orange juice, supper is rice with veggies and a cup of green tea.

    I am currently at 77.1kg weight and my height is 5'9"
     
  5. Frank Dux

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    more protein.... 1.5xbw in pounds
     
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    yea put that into calories and breakdowns for us
     
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    what is that like 1000 calories?
     
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    yea i just actually read it that is no were near enough food
     
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    What are your thoughts on this post

    "To cut your BMI you need to be in the fat burning zone so I'm talking a light jog (so you are sweating but can still hold down a conversation).

    If you do it first thing in the morning you have no carbs in you so you should hit the fat straight away but if you do it after a meal you'll have to burn off the carbs first.

    So do cardio first thing in the morning on an empty stomach for 30-50 mins (fast walk to light jog) "?

    Also what is a good pre workout ( 30 mins before getting on the threadmill or outside run ) supplement or drink?
     
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    you are eating rice and vegetables for dinner, and you cant figure out why you are losing muscle? :rofl:
     
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    I couldn't be farked explaining it in physiological terms, but no, its wrong.
     
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    I am new to all this, and that is why I am asking for advice, what to change, things to do, corrections to what I listed so far.

    Not asking to be laughed at.
     
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    Did you read the stickies yet?
     
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    Yes I did, didn't find the answers am looking for, that is why I decided to come here and ask politely for answers.
     
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    simple, eat more protein
     
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    OK.....thx. What was wrong with the rice and veggies comment above, if I had it for lunch or supper, in terms of losing muscle?
     
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    if you are ccutting, your diet should be mostly lean protein, and maybe some vegetable, you can only carb up on a bulk

    so egg whites, chicken breast, whey protein and your green veggies are you friends. Id go for 2000 calories to start with too... then reduce
     
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    what kind of rep scheme are you using in your weight workouts? you need to lift heavy to maintain muscle mass while dieting
     
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    not rly
     
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    You also need to throw in some fat in your diet, like some almonds or PB.
     
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    Like mitchj said, more protein. If there's any single meal that should be packed with protein, it's your dinner since you'll be going to bed soon after and won't be eating anything for another 8+ hours.

    Also, throw in a few small meals in between your breakfast/lunch/dinner. you don't need to go crazy. maybe a handful of walnuts/almonds or something after lunch/ before dinner. and also you'd probably do well to eat some cottage cheese right before bedtime since you probably aren't going right to bed after you eat dinner proper. This wont really effect your cutting if you keep it lean but should help save some muscle.
     
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    Basically more protein. Move the rice to an earlier meal (you don't want to load up on carbs at the end of the day.) And add a 4-6oz piece of meat to your veggies for the last meal.

    Add one snack of almonds or walnuts (go with almonds and count out precisely 22 of those bad boys=1 serving) and one snack of a protein shake. Any brand will work. I recommend ATW or ON.

    This will put another 48g of badly needed muscle saving protein into your system, and will move the carbs from your rice to a point in the day where your body can use them as energy to burn instead of "storing them as fat" to use tomorrow.
     
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    http://www.tmuscle.com/free_online_...formance/lifting_for_fat_losstake_home_points
    :dunno:
     
  24. Frank Dux

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    proved me wrong :)
     
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    Thx everyone for the feedbacks. I should have mentioned that I do indeed eat almonds in between meals and my whey protein drinks 2 scoops 45g twice a day.

    My weight exercise is 2-3 sets of 15 reps doing back, chest, legs, stretches, butt, biceps, arms and abs. For the legs I push 150lbs, dumbbells I use 2 10s-15s when am on the bench and for lunges.

    On other machines, I use between 80-100lbs of weight for my exercises for the reps mentioned above
     
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