A&P Advantages of Monolights over Speedlights

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  1. The Cable Guy

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    So what are somethings you can do with a monolight that you can't do with a speedlight? I know that light output is a major advantage, and the recycle rate is probably a lot faster, but please enlighten me so I don't spend another $500 on more lighting I don't really need.
     
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    Control of the light. You can use grids, snoots, barn doors, different reflectors, soft boxes, beauty discs, umbrellas, and various other modifiers that you cant put on speedlights.

    That is in addition to the two extremely huge advantages you mentioned above.
     
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    Hmm, I was really thinking about getting a softbox. Well, time to save up then.
     
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    you can still get a softbox and use your speedlights.
    check out ezybox or a photoflex Q39.
    I have the 24x32 Q39 and it works pretty well with my 430EX.
    Only problem is when you need to light a big area. body and head shots are fine.
     
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    Like you already stated, recycle times and power output are the major advantages. This may not seem like much when shooting pics of individuals or smaller setups, but when you need to light a ballroom or a 20 person formal, you'll bless the day you bought monolights.
     
  6. Bob Loblaw

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    you can do all that shit with speedlights :dunno:
     
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    the fuck are you talking about?

    thisguy.jpg
     
  9. Dan Martin

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    modeling lights ftw
     
  10. Bob Loblaw

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    yeah, i was at a workshop today
    they were using 800, 1000 and 1500w monobloc flashes with modelling lights
    they make my speedlights look like shit :hs:
     
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    Cycle time for speed lights also depend on the battery you use.
    While not as fast of a cycle time as a monolight, using 2700mAH's aren't too bad. I use Sanyo 2700's which are awesome.
     
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    turbodude Just a photographer OT Supporter

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    modifiers, modifiers, modifiers... more options readily available, they come in much bigger sizes for softer light, much more effecient, typically build quality, user servicable parts modeling lamps, no need to worry about batteries when in a studio or constant ac power. the list goes on and on.

    dont get me wrong, speedlights have their place, it all comes down to choosing the right tool for the job.

    personally i love using both. My aresenal:
    2x x3200
    2x x1600
    1x abr800
    2x sunpak 555
    1x sb800
    1x b900

    and they all have their place and use in my kit. Get what u need and dont be a gear collector.
     
  13. Bob Loblaw

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    x3200 and x1600 are alien bees lights yeah?
     
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    Well power and capacity, speedlights overheat if you're popping a lot/fast.

    And..You can do modifiers on speedlights, but you're kinda limited to basic flags, gobos, snoots etc.

    If you want large, like a strip light, its hard to get that with a flash head that's 2"x1".

    still, if you can get away with it, way prefer strobes for convenience and portability.
     
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    Interesting, how much should I look to spend, just to start out? I've already got two SB600s synced with Cybersyncs. I'll probably start with a large softbox as well. I don't want to go super low end since I know that shit will suck, and I will need to upgrade, so something mid-level should fit my current needs.
     
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    Are you saying I'm wrong?

    I know you can get a lot of shit for speedlights, but you don't have anywhere near the flexibility you have with a real strobe.
     
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    You said, you CAN'T use a lot of the light modifiers on speedlights, which is why people jumped on you. ^ is more accurate and completely different than what you originally said.
     
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    you can do all the same stuff with a speedlight versus a monolight. its just AMOUNT of light that is put out. you can be creative with both..

    you can use snoots, softboxes, grids, barn doors etc but flexability is a little bit more limited. also never plan on overpower the sun at high noon. If you plan on being indoors, you can easily get away with 2-4 cheap speedlights ( background, hair, 2 for main etc )

    another nice thing about mono's are model / continuous lighting. where speedlights just pop

    I would check into the Alien Bee Enstein for pre-order. Amazing light packed in that casing. Or even a AB800 if you dont plan on shoot a lot around mid day
     
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    i dont find that set up to be THAT good....its 450 TOTAL ws.....seems kinda weak for 3 strobes
     
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    Yeah, you are wrong. amount of flexibility != no modifiers. I use modifiers every goddam day on my speedlights. Softboxes, shoot through umbrellas, snoots, gobo's, and even a beauty dish on occasion.

    And you want to talk about flexibility!?! speedlights fit in my pocket, don't need to be plugged in, and weigh 1/8th your standard strobe.

    If you're in a studio and don't have to ever pack/move/unpack your strobes, then it's a no-brainer to use them. I have a couple Dynalite Kits that I use strictly in studio, and I LOVE them. I'd never dream of using my speedlights in a studio setup.

    I'd also never dream of packing up my dynalites and bringing them on location to a wedding or something. That would just be stupid. Off camera speedlights > fixed position strobes in situations where timing, flexibility and efficiency are factors.

    The simple fact that people are sitting here trying to pigeon hole two entirely different light sources into a better/worse argument is really fucking stupid.
     
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    ^ completely different light sources yes.

    but what they have in common, is the one thing you are looking for..LIGHT

    if you can use the light wisely you can get by with a speedlight for almost any situation. shooting mid day? shoot in the shade etc need to do a full body shot, use 4 speedlights etc.
     
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    whats wrong with alien bees, calumet, bowens, profoto? :p
     
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