A&P Adobe RGB and sRGB v.educate me

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  1. xenon supra

    xenon supra OT Supporter

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    Okay, let me see if I've got this right.

    For pictures on the web or pictures that will mainly be viewed on the computer, you should shoot in sRGB, where as if you plan on printing with little or no PP you should shoot in Adobe?

    Colors are more vivid in sRGB?

    Is this right? What else is important to know about color spaces. Thanks.
     
  2. FlashhslaF

    FlashhslaF New Member

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    I have been wondering about this same thing...good question.
     
  3. White Stormy

    White Stormy Take that, subspace!

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    I think you should just always shoot in Adobe RGB because it has a slightly wider range of colors..
     
  4. mojito

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    aRGB is a larger color space, so it is technically better for printing (if the printer can even use the extra info)

    sRGB is smaller, but is the standard color space for the web. aRGB, even though its larger, will look dull and washed out on the web.

    some browsers support more color profiles, so you have to be carful. Safari does this.

    You can shoot in either, just make sure its sRGB for the web or itll look like crap.

    ProphotoRGB is larger than aRGB, so LR uses it as the working color space, then you export to whatever media you plan to use it for
     
  5. xenon supra

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    I don't think so. I think sRGB is the standard for web stuff definitely, not sure about printing though.

    Found this: http://www.kenrockwell.com/tech/adobe-rgb.htm
     
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    :coold: why does photoshop save in aRGB by default for me :hs:
     
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    Because Photoshop is made for photography, which = printing, not posting on Flickr.

    I just run an action on mine before saving that switches to sRGB. Works lots better, as it's way nicer on web. All my raw shit is Adobe though, because printing is whats actually important, not web.
     
  8. mojito

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    technically your limiting the color then, but for most purposes its fine
     
  9. tetsuo

    tetsuo And shepherds we shall be...

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    or just shoot raw and convert to the proper color space for what you need
     
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    xenon supra OT Supporter

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    So to make it simple:

    For web: shoot sRGB
    For print: shoot aRGB

    :dunno:
     
  11. mojito

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    shhhhhhhhhhh
     
  12. xenon supra

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    I shoot raw most of the time, but sometimes I don't have enough space to shoot RAW all day long.
     
  13. mojito

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    but how do you know ahead of time what all it'll be used for?

    thats like saying shooting jpeg small for web and jpeg large for print :hs:

    take the word shoot out of there and yes, thats the correct export (in general, not all printers can deal with aRGB)
     
  14. tetsuo

    tetsuo And shepherds we shall be...

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    ;) memory cards are cheap. if thats not an option, i would just shoot argb and convert the ones you want to post on the web.
     
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    White Stormy Take that, subspace!

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    http://forums.offtopic.com/showthread.php?t=3757035

    there are SD cards on there, too. they're actually a better deal than the CF cards, but there aren't as many SD choices
     
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    So you can convert aRGB --> sRGB but not sRGB --> aRGB
     
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    I just bought a D300 and 8gb card :o I can't afford anymore.

    I get almost 400 raw pics, I should be fine for most cases.

    Thanks :h5:
     
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    yes

    well you could convert it to aRGB but there would be no actual gain, kind of like interpolating, its just filling in missing data with what it already has
     
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    it depends where you're going to print your pics. most places use sRGB...so I would stick with that. if you're going to print them yourself or know FOR SURE the printing place uses aRGB, use that. otherwise, you're in for a hassle and a half.

    for most photogs who don't print themselves, sRGB is the ticket.

    you can compare the same photo aRGB and sRGB side-by-side and i doubt you'll see a difference unless you look REALLLLY hard
     
  20. FlashhslaF

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    so wait...if i'm shooting raw it doesn't matter what setting the camera is using Argb or Srgb.....as long as i convert the raw in pp to the application i'm going to use..print or web?
     
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    how'd I miss this thread!

    Looks like everything's been covered though...

    I keep everything in ProPhoto until I decide what i'm doing with it, because the larger color space prevents clipping in the color channels - allowing for smoother gradients and nicer and more even saturation of colors.

    I also use ImagePrint for all of my printing, which can utilize 16bit data and the prophoto colorspace... I'm assuming many pro printing places do something similar...

    Here's a really good link:

    http://www.luminous-landscape.com/tutorials/prophoto-rgb.shtml
     
  22. jared_IRL

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    the color space of your RAW file is determined my the RAW developing program you use. RAW data isn't an actual picture. It's just a big data dump of all of the light the sensor read during that exposure. Hence the name 'raw data'...

    And shooting raw completely disregards all 'in camera' settings you choose... All of those saturation, contrast and color settings do not get applied to raw exposures.
     
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    I always shoot in aRGB 1998, then decide to convert to sRGB or CMYK if need be.
     
  24. FlashhslaF

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    thanks. :cool:
     
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    isaac86hatch This thread sucks

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