GUN Accidental Discharge

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  1. UCLA throwing

    UCLA throwing New Member

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    hey yall. I dont post much but here is what i gotta say. I just got a kimber Raptor and it only has like 100 rounds through it. I was playing around with it and put the mag in and cocked it back. I took the mag out and while i was pullin the slide back the gun went off. My finger wasnt even close to the trigger. Ive heard of this happenin to old 1911's but the kimber is new. What should i do? you think the gun is poor design?
     
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    Could you show us some pictures of the brass?
     
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    UCLA throwing New Member

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    ya ill get some asap
     
  4. Sarge21

    Sarge21 Frau am Steuer Ungeheuer!

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    A 1911 shoud physically not be able to fire if the slide is moved even slightly to the rear. At least its that way on my Kimber.

    I think your story is a little bit unclear. How did a bullet get in the chamber if you dropped the mag, then racked the slide?
     
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  6. striker754

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    you pulled the trigger most likely
     
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    i think he's saying he had one chambered and he was trying to clear it. so did you injure your non-firing hand? you said you were racking it when it went off, that could cause some hurt.
     
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    - Loaded Wilson Combat 10rnd magazine with Winchester .45 hollow point ammunition.

    - Placed the magazine into the magwell and slammed the magazine in its place.

    - Held the gun with my right hand, Pulled the slide back with left hand and let it load in a round the chamber.

    - Did not fire any rounds, but instead pressed the magazine release button and magazine dropped.

    - Held the pistol in left hand with all fingers on the grip away from the trigger with a strong firm hold to pull back the slide.

    - Pulled slide back about 1/8th of an inch when the gun accidentally discharged.



    The firearm only had about two hundred Winchester FMJ rounds fired.
    The firearm was cleaned once, and I have experience with two other 1911 of my own.
    The firearm HAS jammed before, approximately 5 times of 200 rounds.
     
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    UCLA throwing New Member

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    fortunately i didnt get hurt. I live on a second story apt and it shot through the carpet and just mushroomed on the woodfloor....thank God i was using hollow point....i live in the middle of freakin Westwood or Los Angeles and i was surprised that no cops came. It was about 1:30AM when it happened.
     
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    Still no pictures of the brass?

    fwiw the bullet should go through the floor.
     
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    still no pic of the brass...prolly wont get a pic till monday...i left LA for the weekend...anyways i looked for the hole 5 for like 5 minues and all i saw was a big hole in the carpet and thats it...ill check it out and see if i can find anything else under it
     
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    striker754 Chillin

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    I just want to let you know that you're an idiot for "playing around" and chambering a round in your house. I'm not sure if you should have a gun or not. Seriously.
     
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    whats wrong with chambering a round in your house? i'm so paranoid that before i go out to ccw, i take the mag out and eject the round from the chamber just so i know that there will definitely be a round in the chamber when i go out (after reloading of course)
     
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    push the slide back about an inch :dunno:
     
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    mrburner Ron Paul 2008

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    :noes: that did it

    lady below me, i hope you're ok

    :hsugh:
     
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    freak accident or negligence. i honestly have no clue how pulling a slide back will cause a round to go off.
     
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    Sarge21 Frau am Steuer Ungeheuer!

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    you can rack the slide on a 1911 without depressing the grip safety. Had you not depressed the grip safety the gun defeniately would not have gone off, even if you were to pull the trigger. Firing pin block, trigger lock, etc.
     
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    Sarge21 Frau am Steuer Ungeheuer!

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    on a 1911 kimber it should be impossible.


    from the kimber manual:

    DISCONNECTOR
    The disconnector prevents a round from being
    fired prior to being properly seated in the chamber
    with the slide and barrel locked. If the slide is not
    fully forward, the disconnector is depressed and
    disengages the sear so that the hammer cannot
    drop if the trigger is pulled.
    With the slide fully
    forward and the barrel locked, a spring pushes the
    disconnector into a recess in the bottom of the
    slide. The disconnector now engages the sear so
    that the hammer can move forward when the
    trigger is pulled.

    HAMMER SAFETY STOP
    The hammer safety stop is a notch on the hammer
    which prevents it from falling fully forward in the
    event of primary sear notch failure. It also prevents
    the hammer from hitting the firing pin should your
    fingers slip from the slide or hammer while cocking
    the pistol, provided the hammer has been moved
    past the stop.
    (i know the pisol in your case was already fully cocked) The safety stop is not a manual
    safety! Do not under any circumstances use the
    safety stop as a "half cock" position. This misuse
    can result in damage to the sear, and/or
    unintentional discharge of the pistol. The safety
    stop position is an automatically engaging safety
    feature and should never be engaged by hand!





    all this means he either fucked up and is not admitting it (likely) or his brand new kimber is fucked up (highly unlikely).
     
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    even if he did pull the trigger if he did it after he started pulling the slide back, it shouldn't have fired anyway.
     
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    or he's done some work or had some work done that he isn't mentioning, like polishing parts or trying to improve the fit and feel and took too much metal off.
     
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    I'm not saying anything til I see the brass. It should look quite interesting being fired out of battery.

    Unlikely story, unlikely bullet behavior...meh its a good read.
     
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    So what happened with the picture(s) of the brass?
     
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    At least the round went into the floor, eh?
     
  25. lugoismad

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    If what he is saying is true, he did absolutely nothing wrong.

    I chamber a round in my house ALL THE TIME. Every day when I get home, I take off my Concealed Carry Weapon, drop the mag, pull back the slide, grab the ejected ammo, pop the slide off, check everything over, and then put it back together, and drop the slide on a fresh round of ammo.

    Its perfectly acceptable too. I won't do it to guns I don't trust. I have a new AK sitting here that I won't load and chamber until I'm at the range and its pointed down range, you just never know.

    But on a pistol you've shot and trust, I see absolutely no reason why its not ok to load it at home. How else can you be ready with a home defense weapon?

    My shotgun is loaded under my bed. My carry pistol is sitting on my desk, loaded and chambered, in my holster.

    If you don't trust your guns enough to do it, whatever. But don't hate on other people.


    That being said. Its a kimber. They are pretty well known for having ALOT of problems. I'd get rid of it if I where you. I won't keep a gun I don't trust. I sold my old taurus pistol because it would FTF on some rounds.
     

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