A possible solution to my tiny server dilemma.

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  1. deusexaethera

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    That's a huge frickin' fan. More likely, I'll buy a heatpipe for a Shuttle XPC and use that to cool the CPU -- My plans involve mounting the whole gitup in a 4-bay external SCSI enclosure, so I can transport it with zero effort.

    EDIT: Heh...nevermind, I just realized that thing is a hotswap bay. I'm gonna use this one, cause I can get 2TB plus a parity drive without having to buy 750GB disks: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817994028. I put a 3-in-2 in my dad's music recording computer and it works very well.

    No, I haven't built anything yet. This rig could cost me $1500 to put together, so I'm taking my time and making sure I find everything I really want to use first, so I don't cut corners and regret it later.
     
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    I dont give a balls about hot swapping, well, using ide I cant anyway :big grin:
    The coolermaster is much cheaper as and keeps the drives perfectly cool, however that one holds 5 which is sweet.

    When you do get it working get a tool to read smart data & keep an eye on temps.
     
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    Uh - why two cores?
     
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    If it doesn't do a lot, one core is fine. What is this for?
     
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    Anything and everything I'd ever use a server for. SMB, HTTP, FTP, SMTP, VPN, ABC, XYZ, etc...

    (grin)

    Anyway, I'm only going to build one box because I absolutely refuse to waste electricity running multiple boxes each with one application on them. I may even use Virtual Server to run multiple images so I can have the security of multiple boxes without wasting parts and power. So I'd like it to have a decent amount of oomph.
     
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    :rofl: no body does that at home any more... unless they are bored and have floor space to burn...
     
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    Oh good, I'm not the only one. Strangely, I've only ever seen bragging pics of people's home server closets, not of their small-footprint all-in-ones. I guess I'm just more of a tree-hugger than most.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    I don't like those 4in3 drive cages.
    I don't think there would be enough airflow in between the drives for proper cooling.
     
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    You'd be surprised. I have a 3-in-2 in my dad's computer and I repositioned the fan to blow air out the front of the cage (to prevent dust accumulation) and you can feel a nice warm breeze coming out. It doesn't need to be gale-force to prevent overheating, unless you're using them constantly like in a DB server or something similar.
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    It's not so much that I worry about the drives getting too hot.
    I just like the drives to stay fairly cool. I'm running 4 drives,
    and the hottest one is 90f. With that tight spacing, I think it would be worse.
     
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    I use the CM 4in3 in my server and desktop now, it is a brilliant solution. I can post temps if you would like.

    I have not found a case with HD cooling that is better. The module spaces the HD similar to most cases.

    The only thing it might need is a fan alarm to warn you if the fan stops (or better yet change the fan for a sensor fan and use a motherboard output. 4 HDs stacked in any enclosure will probably overheat without forced cooling.
     
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    [email protected]:~/testing# sh /sbin/hdtemp.sh
     Temp : | 32C | 34C | 34C | 34C |
    These are segate 250G ide drives in the CM tube. The computer itself is located in a closed stairwell cellar and heats the small room up considerably. Server has been up for 20 days and hds do not spin down. Before using this I tried just a much more powerful and noisy 120mm fan on the front of the case with duct tape shrouds & couldnt keep the drives under 40C.

    In my PC the hds sit at about 26C in the middle of the day - also non airconditioned.
     
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    90 degrees Fahrenheit isn't going to do anything to a hard drive. And besides, your hottest drive is either your Raptor or your SCSI drive, and because those spin at 10krpm, they pull at least 33% more wattage to spin the spindle than most drives do -- and that's not even considering the extra wattage on top of that to compensate for inefficiency in the system.
     

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