A&P a few recent "still a beginner" photos of mine, and a question on one of them

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  1. ace3

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    went to guatemala last weekend for my nephew's first birthday (first piñata). most are taken with my 50mm 1.8. No post processing on any except where noted. cloudy day outside, unfortunately.

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    blindly messed around in Lightroom with this one:
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    question on this one. i used my new (420ex) external flash, but couldn't get the shutter speed (AV mode) to go any faster. what do I need to do differently?
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    cute kid
     
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    yeah, on my D50 with the flash on, I can't set the shutter to anything higher than 1/500
     
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    great pics
     
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    yeah, he's the shit
     
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    yeah, what's up with that?

    here's the exif on that last photo ... i couldn't get the shutter speed to go any faster. :mad:

    Camera: Canon EOS Digital Rebel XTi
    Exposure: 0.077 sec (1/13)
    Aperture: f/1.8
    Focal Length: 50 mm
    ISO Speed: 100
    Exposure Bias: 0/3 EV
    Flash: Flash fired
    Metering Mode: Evaluative
    Focus Range: Not Known
    Canon Exposure Mode: Aperture-Priority AE
    Lens Type: Canon EF 50mm f/1.8 MkII
    Lens: 50mm

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    hmm, yeah. I was out the other week taking some photos and was like :wtf: cause when I turned the flash off it would go back to like 1/2000, but as soon as I turned the flash on it would go down to 1/500 and I couldn't set it any higher.

    Maybe someone here will know why. If it's happening on both canons and nikons, maybe there's some actual reason :dunno:

    although 1/13 is fucking slow :eek4:
     
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    1/500 is the max sync speed for the d50. i am not sure what the sync speed is for the xti but it should be 1/250. canon guys can probably clue you in on what went wrong; my guess is that it was on second curtain sync or in the camera your flash speed is turned way down.
     
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    aperture priority with the flash on should give you 1/60 at a minimum.

    The reason for the limited shutter speeds with the flash is due to the flashes ability to sync with the shutter. Normal flashes can't sync anything faster than 1/500. My SB600 can go up to 1/4000....

    Not sure why you were stuck at 1/13 though. Especially at 1.8 with the flash on...
     
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    rebel xt syncs at a max of 1/200 if i remember correctly.
     
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    Reason is in AV mode external flash goes into Fill Flash mode. And he was at iso 100. Your cam metered and to get the appropriate exposure for the photo at that iso 100 it was 1/13. In manual mode you could have gotten a faster shutter speed however you would not have had as well exposed background as you do in the original pic. Best thing to do in that situation was to bump teh iso to 200 or 320 to pick up shutter speed so that you get a good pic. otherwise freezing action by setting to manual mode would get you good exposure on your nephew but background would have been really dark.

    in other words canon flash metering has two different modes. and in the AV it still meters from the background as if your flash is not there, IE. Fill flash mode.
     
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    great response turbo dude.
     
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    there is a way to get best of both words though and thats by Dragging the shutter. Typically used in Night Club settings.
     
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    brilliant!
     
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    hmmm, so buying an external flash for my D50 would allow me to have a much faster shutter speed?

    Jared, your SB600 allows up to 1/4000?

    I'm still not sure if I should invest in a flash yet... although with my new lens the built in flash gets caught on the lens because it's so wide... I imagine that will also be an issue with the 18-200 if it's extended.
     
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    i am not sure how he is syncing that fast. jared any info?
     
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    u can use hi speed sync and it will allow u to use a faster shutter speed. flash will not give u a faster shuuter speed automatically. in manual u can compensate for it
     
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    hot damn, you're smart. :o

    i guess i didn't realize at the time i was in ISO100 ... should have been at least 200 or 300.

    Thanks!
     
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    i bought the flash used from some guy on FM .. it's the previous model, but damn, it works great. it was really fun trying out pics from having a direct flash to bouncing it off different walls. very cool.

    i'd definitely suggest one if you do any indoor stuff.
     
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    i'm sure i'll be sorry to ask, but care to explain?
     
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    because of what i said before in Av the camera still assumes that the flash is not here and meters for ambient and not for th flash. with manual "you" decide whats necessary shutter and aperature and you can compensate for the flash.
     
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    best advise with external flashes...get to know your manual mode. lol. i know most canons are either 1/200-1/250th and my Elan is retarded when the flash is on, so i just use manual.
     
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    i'm getting there slowly but surely.

    part of that book I linked was talking about how NOT to be afraid of manual mode. i still am. ;)
     

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