Discussion in 'On Topic' started by krott5333, Dec 31, 2005.
9mm = more capacity..
and with todays great defensive rounds available, 9mm is the clear choice.
Ballistic information to prove your point as well as any real life information?
a 1911, holding 8 rounds of 230 grain 45 ACP = 1840 total grains
and a 230gr is on the high end of the 45 spectrum..
a G34, holding 17 rounds of 115 grain 9mm = 1955
and thats the smaller 9mm bullet..
if you took a 147 gr.. 2499 grains
total grainage = more devastation
I'm not a huge 9mm fan granted choice between my 17 rd g17 or 8rd 1911 ill opt for the 9mm but there are other handguns now a days that hold more then 8, hell i usually choose my .40 p99 over it and thatholds several rounds less...
like a true propagandist, I only use data that backs my argument
Now some ballistic information that will show one round of 9mm will do more damage than one round of .45
been studying brady tactics?
that wasnt my argument..
17 rounds* of 9mm is better than 8 rounds of 45**
**shots to non-vital areas
Then the thread title would have been.
FN 5.7 "Cop Killer Bullet" > *.*
9mm only got bad rep cause shitty FBI shots. 9mm, .40, .45 will all do the job. Hell .22s kill people. R Kennedy got killed by a .22 tons of others have too.
I'd take the 9mm for more capacity and cheaper practice/overall ammo
I think any of them will do a fine job. Personally I like 9mm for capacity, but I also have a 10mm if I feel like something that is known to make extra nasty holes.
How do you like it? I've never shot it, .45acp will be the next thing i add to my hand collection (currently consists of .40, 9mm, .357, and cough25cough )
More energy than the .45 ACP and slightly bigger than the 9mm.
They all penetrate to the same depth so with that being equal, I will take the bigger bullet for a bigger wound channel.
Now if you are going to compare, be fair, a single stack vs. a double stack?
Put a HK P7 against a 1911, both hold 8 rounds. Or if you want to compare double stacks, the G17 vs. the XD45, G21 or a Taurus 24/7.
For energy, it depends on the individual round. Again, if you compare a hot .40 round to a standard .45 ball round, the .40 will have slightly higher energy, but compare a hot .40 round to a hot .45 round and there is no comparison, the .45 has more energy than .40 or 9mm. Nice thing about .45 over a .40 is you can get +P rounds too.
As for recoil, the 9mm is less than the .40 but both are snappy where the .45 is more of a push. I actually like the .45 more for a day of shooting.
So, same penetration, bigger bullet for a bigger wound channel, more energy and with an XD45, 14 rounds in a frame that's barely bigger than a 9mm/40 frame? .45 for me.
XD45 is all you really need to know.
my kimber with nightsights holding 13+1 of .45ACP of a nice defensive round > Glock
as opposed to a Glock 21 holding 13+1 of .45 ACP
g21's are behemoths though.
lighter than a kimber
negative, kimber polymer FTW
light, and tacticool
It shoots better at 30 yards than my SKS does
Are you serious?
What do you think makes the .500 S&W a more powerful round?
Please go back to physics.
no no no, it's all about the .380 niggs
fuck yo .380, .25 nigga what what
you got dat nickle plated nukkuh?
nickle plated burna for the murda