A&P 80-200 shots V. Icehockey

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  1. jared_IRL

    jared_IRL OT Supporter

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    Used the 80-200 to shoot some shots of a friends ice hockey game.

    More coming as I pp em...

    Thoughts?

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    kinda noisy :hs:
     
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    jared_IRL OT Supporter

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    who gives a fuck.
     
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    apparently I do :hsughno:
     
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    isaac86hatch This thread sucks

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    If you were printing these it probably would not matter, but in this case it's pretty distracting.

    Moving on. Whites are blown, not a whole lot of action and nothing is really all that sharp. Pretty weak set altogether.
     
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    gotcha.

    Sorry we all can't shoot in studios at iso 100.

    This whole digital pre-occupation with noise is reaaaaally f'ing stupid.

    I'm gonna start ONLY shooting iso's higher than 1000, just because I can.

    and because in print, and in reality, the difference in negligable.
     
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    just bustin' your balls :love:
     
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    Not quite feeling the action in these shots and they're all a bit soft.
     
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    which whites are you seeing as blown? My histograms show nothing at the top end... Highest levels I have are high 240's, except speculars...

    I left em unsharpened, and shot at 2.8 for the whole set, just to see what the 80-200 looks like wide open.

    Also, looking for tips on action shots for you guys that shoot hockey, this was my first time out.
     
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    isaac86hatch This thread sucks

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    It's hard to tell you the ice is too bright, but it is. Same goes with the background. Honestly none of this is really under your control. It sucks that the ice, obviously, is white, the background is white and a lot of the uniform is white and all of this causes confusion and does not make any particular thing stand out as the subject, which subsequently make the soft images look even softer.

    One thing I would suggest is getting as high up as you can and getting in as close as possible. Sports shots should be cropped really tight and I don't want to see the boring background ie white wall or single spectator and empty stands. Another thing too is the fact that this just looks like practice and nothing exciting is happening - not your fault, but exciting moments = exciting photos. You just need to know where to be and that is usually not something that can be taught, and hockey unpredictable and back and fourth a lot. Just need to move a lot and shoot a lot. Spray and pray is never a bad thing. Eventually, you'll get a shot that really looks good and you'll start to understand where you need to be to get it something like it every time.
     
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    jared_IRL OT Supporter

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    thanks! I appreciate all of the info. It makes perfect sense...

    Anyone have any good hockey photog's that I can check their work out to see how it's done?

    I can't play again til fall, so I minus whale go and shoot...
     
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    don't look very sharp, and the white balance seems off
     
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    PUREVIL More Money Than Brains Croo

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    I think the WB is only off in one pic, right?
     
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    the 2nd one, right?

    That one is off. I think the rest are ok.... ?
     
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    PUREVIL More Money Than Brains Croo

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    Ya the 2nd pic, the rest look fine to me.... even in the second one I think his uniform looks white its just the background has a yellow tint, must be the rinks lighting???? I dunno I suck so dont listen to me! HAHAHAHA
     
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    Yea could be the florescent lighting?
     
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    highlights don't look blown to me. there is a questionable area in the 3rd photo but maybe it's because im not l33t and don't give a crap if some areas are blown as long as my subject is ok. :dunno:
     
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    If you dont care about noise, why did you run them through NR? It makes them look softer than they should.
     
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    cuz I know you guys do? :dunno:

    my print files only have color noise removed, not luminance...

    Speaking of NR, and since a lot of you guys really care about noise in an image, where's the line between removed noise and softness?

    Since I've gotten complaints about both noise and softness, I'm not sure which side of the line i'm on here....
     
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    Oh, and adam, since you shoot sports... tips?
     

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