8 monitor build critique

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  1. dissonance

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    So, someone on craigslist locally posted that they were selling their dual-core 4 monitor day trading computer because they were planning on upgrading to a quad-core 8 monitor setup (somewhat rediculous if you ask me, but thats what he "needs"). The link they posted for where the old computer was purchased was quite overpriced so I saw an opportunity to make some money by offering to build him one myself. I just sent him an email so I don't even know if he already bought one or not yet...

    So, below are my initial ideas on components...

    Qty:1 - Lian Li PC-A59B Case - $89.99
    Qty:1 - Gigabyte GA-EP35-DS4 - $169.99
    Qty:2 - PNY Quadro4 NVS440 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI-Ex1 - $409.99
    Qty:1 - Highpoint RocketRAID 2310 PCI-Ex4 - $119.99
    Qty:1 - PC Power & Cooling S75QB 750Watt PSU - $149.99
    Qty:1 - Intel Q6600 - $249.99
    Qty:2 - Corsair XMS2 2x1GB DDR2-800MHz 4-4-4-12 - $69.00
    Qty:3 - Seagate 7200.11 500GB - $109.00
    Qty:8 - Samsung 2253BW 22" Widescreen LCD - $289.99
    Qty:2 - Sony NEC Optiarc 20x DVD Burner with Lightscribe SATA - $27.99
    Qty:1 - Arctic Cooling MX-2 Thermal Compound - $6.99
    Total: $4,450.79 with monitors
    Total: $2,130.87 without monitors

    OS: Don't know yet whether he wants Vista or XP.

    This was my intial thoughts/offer and is likely to change some. I already think I will add a 250GB or 320GB drive for OS/progs that will be separate from the RAID to prevent accidental data destruction in case of reformatting.

    Thoughts/opinions?
     
  2. deusexaethera

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    What the is with stock traders and their huge fucking computers? They don't need that much data at once, they're just addicted to information overload. It makes them feel important, I guess.

    Keep the OS on the RAID too, just make two partitions on the RAID for the OS/programs and data files.
     
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    why not step up to the Q9300 or Q9450 from the Q6600? 45nm ftw.
     
  4. dissonance

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    Yea, I suppose that should be as idiot proof as anything.

    Hmm, I supose that small price increase isn't much in the scope of things. I was trying to keep the price somewhat lower and didn't realize the Q9300 was $30 more.

    I really just need to talk to the guy before I get to into this. My initial run through was just a quick idea on price.
     
  5. crontab

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    i would stay away from building anything for these type of people. let them buy their own solution.

    if anything goes wrong, they lose money, and you will be held liable.

    i didn't deal with them directly at my old employer, i don't deal with users, but i know groups that did. not worth it. even if you charge him 10x the amount.
     
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    How can they hold you liable if you have not warranty/guarantee?

    Good point though, I didn't think of that.
     
  7. Peyomp

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    Charge him a fuck ton and get some liability insurance. Should only be a few hundred a year.
     
  8. dissonance

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    Thinking about it more, I would probably get him just a RAID-1 for simplicity.

    As far as the liability, assuming he gets back to me and wants me to build him a computer, I would talk to my girlfriend about writing up some sort of liability clause he'd have to sign. She is a paralegal, working on becoming a laywer herself, and the 2 attorneys she does work for would have no problem looking over the form she would write (1 attorney is primarily corporate law and the other is primarily civil/divorce type.. but they both help each other out)

    And honestly, I think he probably already would have a replacement computer. I was more just interested in building such a setup.
     
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    The quote I sent him included a $400 markup. That was still under the price for an inferior system at the place he had linked.
     
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    For your reference, this is the closest computer I found to what he wanted on the site he bought his last one...
    http://www.multi-monitors.com/SUPER_PC_Multi_Screen_Computer_Multi_Monitors_com_p/mmcnws01.htm

    Still doesn't even support the 8 monitors and is the same or inferior in all other categories except 1 of the 2 video cards has more memory then the ones I chose (don't know what video cards they are though).

    When doing a customizable one that gets up closer to specs, its $3,519.99 (without monitors)

    EDIT: edits in italics
     
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  11. deusexaethera

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    Charge him the same. Say "look, I can build you this better computer for the same price." It's still a good deal for him.
     
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    True...

    I'm not going to worry about this much more until I get a response.
     
  13. Peyomp

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    Charge him the same? Fuck, charge him more. Its better. Charge for your expertise.
     
  14. deusexaethera

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    The guy is obviously clueless about computers or he wouldn't be ordering a 4-core, 8-screen rig, but that's no reason to gouge him. He might use one of those screens to go on Newegg and check the prices for himself.
     
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    You act like there's something wrong with a decent markup. Which is dum.
     
  16. Mint

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    Do a raid 5, add a hotswap if you're paranoid.

    And make him sign a paper saying "The builder will not be held liable for any losses of productivity, income, or otherwise in the result of any type of technical, software, or hardware failure"
     
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    haha
     
  18. Peyomp

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    He can go to newegg. But he doesn't know what to pick. By using your expertise to pick the best parts for him, you are consulting as an expert. Expert knowledge is expensive. So mark up the parts as a retailer would, and add a consulting fee.

    Seems pretty straight forward to me, and I doubt he'd complain.
     

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