GUN 5th Amendment, Self-Incrimination, & Gun Registration

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  1. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    I've made this exact argument dozens of times. It's beyond me how people can really think that registration is worth pursuing for any reason other than to control gun owners.

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  2. Paul Revere

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    interesting
     
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    I have always wondered about this very angle.
     
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    So, he didn't register his SBS, therefore when he was caught with it, he was then a felon, who could not own any gun anyways?

    Please asplain, I'm tired, food coma.
     
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    He was charged with not having registered the shotgun, not possessing it.

    His claim was that, as a convicted felon, trying to register the shotgun was tantamount to self incrimination since he would be announcing he was illegally possessing the shotgun.
     
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    please look at the UK and Australian model for the consequences of gun registration
     
  9. Jurisbot Esq.

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    I wouldn't count on that saving you.

    They would just drop the charge of failing to register with being a felon in possession of a firearm.
     
  10. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    You can still get "felon in possession of a firearm". You just can't be charged with the registration crime.
     
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    Still don't understand how this show's why guns shouldn't be registered. This just sounds like paranoid BS, if you're not a felon, no need to worry about having trouble getting it registered. If you are a felon, you'll eventually get caught. What does it matter to law abiding citizens, don't understand how it effects you guys. It'll make a lot easier to find your shit if it gets stolen.:)
     
  12. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    What's the point of registration if it doesn't help to catch criminals? :hsugh:
     
  13. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    What do you think it accomplishes?
     
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    see my response to your post in the other thread.
     
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    it matters because the government has no right to know what i own or dont own.

    should i have to register my computer because i COULD potentially use it to commit identity theft?
     
  16. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    :rofl:
    How so?

    And how does that un-fucking-likely event justify giving the government a list of what I own, and subjecting myself to more restrictions?
     
  17. Paul Revere

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    is he really a troll? :o

    i tried to write out a non-flaming reply in the other thread.
     
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    from the other thread:

     
  19. Kasumi Chan

    Kasumi Chan Happy, joyous and free. But fuck off.

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    From other thread...

    Guns are stolen. If guns were marked before they were put in stores or gun shows, and then registered to a particular person, those guns could then be kept track of. That way, when somebody stupid get's their gun stolen and doesn't report it they can take some of the blame for that shit. When large shipments mysteriously disappear, the company who was gonna sell them then has a responsibility in it if they don't report it. You guys see eventual government intervention to take your guns, I see a national change in responsibility. Security will be tighter on guns, people will care more about protecting their rights. It's like many other things, you people want your rights, but you gotta a whole bunch of fuck tards abusing them. If you want rights, you have to take the responsibility for them.

    It just boggles my mind that there are places in the US (I'm not awesome with gun laws) that someone can walk into a store and buy a gun with no criminal background check and no license. That makes no sense to me. Why on earth should guns be allowed to sold to someone who had some form of criminal history of violent crimes?
     
  20. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    It boggles my mind that you're allowed to walk around without wearing a helmet.

    Inherent in everything you just said is the assumption that a gun owner is a criminal. So fuck you.
     
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    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    And none of your bullshit addresses the fact that convicted felons are immune to any registration law.
     
  22. Joe_Cool

    Joe_Cool Never trust a woman or a government. Moderator

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    Or the fact that the government is constitutionally barred from regulating firearm ownership.
     
  23. Kasumi Chan

    Kasumi Chan Happy, joyous and free. But fuck off.

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    The government knows what car you own, where you live, what kind of home or apartment you live in, all your medical history and criminal history, could potentially fucking track you via the GPS on your phone and your bitching because they know that you own a gun? Unless you pay in cash for EVERYTHING, the government can know about everything you own anyway. I really don't get it. The government knows your SS number but you're not okay with them knowing you own a gun? I really don't understand this concept.
     
  24. Kasumi Chan

    Kasumi Chan Happy, joyous and free. But fuck off.

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    No, they are constitutionally barred from not allowing people to own firearms. They are not barred from regulating it.
     
  25. Kasumi Chan

    Kasumi Chan Happy, joyous and free. But fuck off.

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    How did you get that?
     

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