A&P 50D vs a 5D?

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  1. So before I went to bed I was thinking about getting a new camera, but I was thinking, would I lose out on getting a 50D instead of a used 5D? I mean, the old 5D is;

    12.8mp
    3fps
    ISO 3200

    And it's full frame...

    But looking at the 50D... it's;

    15mp
    6.3fps
    ISO 6400

    But it's a crop sensor...

    I don't want to put money down on a 5d MK II... but would it be insane to purchase a 50D instead of a 5D?
     
  2. mojito

    mojito New Member

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    Doesn't seem like what you shoot would warrant a 5d and the glass that's needed for it
     
  3. Harry Caray

    Harry Caray Fine purveyor of x.264, h.264 & TS HD-Video !!! HD

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    Most people love the 50D now.. even over the "tad" bit of noise that's more then the 40d...

    P.S. I like ur old A.V. better
     
  4. Mutombo

    Mutombo New Member

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    The 50D is a nice camera. The 5D is better. Depends on what you're shooting. Unless you are shooting only sports/wildlife, I'd go for the 5D classic.
     
  5. NYM3

    NYM3 Is this teal life or is it....fanta-sea?

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    I was going to suggest just getting a good used 40d :hs:


    I was in this dilemma. Really wanted a 5d, but figured why spend the extra money right now if i plan on going 5dII later. I'll just put the extra 500-700 on some more L glass in the mean time.

    So i found a practically brand new 40d for 500 bucks :naughty:

    don't know if that helps at all but thats what i did :rofl:
     
  6. 1992 240SX

    1992 240SX New Member

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    Is the 50D miles ahead from the 40D? I'm a Nikon shooter but as far as I knew wasn't the 50D's jump very slight in comparison?
     
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    when it comes down to it: sensor cleaning + speed, or full frame. all of the other stuff is essentially sales fluff.
     
  8. Mutombo

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    It's slight in the sense that the only improvements are the increased resolution (albeit with a little more noise), micro AF adjust, and the high res screen. Everything else is the same.

    Is the 50D nicer than the 40D, I'd say yes. Is it $500 nicer? No.
     
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    No 5D2 no care.
     
  10. Drunken Karnie Midget

    Drunken Karnie Midget In Yeo We Trust, All Others Pay Cash OT Supporter

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    In expanded mode, the ISO on the 50d goes all the way to 12,800... but it's loud as fuck.

    *edit* i've got the 50d, and really do enjoy it. beyond that i couldn't tell you. I've never owned any other prosumer/pro bodies.
     
  11. Dan Martin

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    I have a 50D and it's a great camera when used within it's limits. I use up to ISO 1600 without fear, but 3200 is a bit of a stretch. 6400 and 12,800 are there to make the marketing department happy and are all but completely useless for most photography.

    The 5D is a classic and always will be. The image quality of the 5D is fantastic at just about any ISO it offers. There's very little to complain about there.

    From a body standpoint, if you compare a 5D to a 50D side by side, there's no denying that the 50D is a much more modern camera. A lot has changed in the 3 years since the 5D was released. Of course, that's where the 5D2 comes in. :)

    I think the 50D is a vastly underrated camera. If the engineers showed some restraint and kept the ISO down to what the camera can actually do, then it would have been much better accepted by the community.
     
  12. Drunken Karnie Midget

    Drunken Karnie Midget In Yeo We Trust, All Others Pay Cash OT Supporter

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    It's biggest drawback is the crop body. beyond that, mr. Martin is right, the expanded ISOs are just there for the advertising, but they're pretty much useless.
     
  13. Jbrown

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    I did pretty much same thing
     
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    so what? why does everyone automatically think this is a bad thing :dunno:
     
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    So how does the high ISOs on 5DII's compare to the 50D and 5D

    i want to buy a new body, and want one that will last.
    im thinking just 5DII, and get over it.

    how much does it kick the 50D's ass?
     
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    It's a couple stops better than the 50D. Maybe a stop to a stop and a half better than the 5D classic.
     
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    The viewfinder alone should sell the 5D
     
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    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    I haven't looked at 50D images, but I won't blink twice switching to ISO 6400 on the 5D MKII. The image quality at 6400 looks about the same as 1600 on my 5D MKI.

    This is a random snap shot in a parking lot hanging out with some friends. 5D MKII, ISO 6400, 16-35 2.8L, f4.0, 1/50
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    My work camera is an EOS 1Ds MkII, along with a classic 5D. At home for personal use I purchased a 50D. So far I have no complaints, I enjoy carrying and shooting it, especially after humping around the 1Ds for 7 months in Iraq. I have only carried the 50D out for a couple shoots with the family and I feel it was worth the money. Besides, I have always been told your money is invested in the glass, not the body.
     
  21. Drunken Karnie Midget

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    The proof's in the pudding on this one. For the amount of night time work i do (with zero strobes, mind you) i would kill for the ISO power of the 5d2. 6400 without even thinking about it, max range up to 25000, and still useable at that level, whereas it's a gimmick on the 50d.

    This is true, but in the case of the 5d2, there really is a large advantage in the ISO department.
     
  22. Derrict

    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    I had the tripod in my trunk but didn't bother using it with the 5D MKII. But, when I pulled out the 5D MKI (70-200 2.8L IS), I had to use it :squint:

    Indoor/low light shots are now possible handheld because of the extra 2 stops of light at 6400.
     
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    Derrict No, I am not Amish OT Supporter

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    The LCD on the 5D MKII is worth the money alone. Anti-glare, auto adjust brightness, and the resolution :bigthumb:
     
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    Drunken Karnie Midget In Yeo We Trust, All Others Pay Cash OT Supporter

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    I'm in the market for a portable dvd player w/ a video in connection to use with my 50d for this reason alone :mamoru:
     

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