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  1. Dodge guy

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    Originally they had hook-it products. Then they came out with hook-it 2 which had some good products. 1500 sanding paper wasn't the best but the 3000 lasted forever. Now they got rid of all hook-it 2 products so this means buying a new backing pad and what not. The new wet sand 1500 paper is pretty good till it starts chipping and the 3000 just flat out blows. 5 dirt nibs and the 3000 is shot.





    Sry just a rant:madfawk:




    I use this shit at work
     
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    3M Ultra Fine Machine Polish (aka Ultrafina) 06068 fucking rocks though. Even when I did my son's dark blue Toyota by rotary last June with no real sun and finished with Ultrafina, when he brought it here this week while visiting me, no rotary holograms on the car. :)

    Shit ain't filling at the 6 month point...it's removing. :)
     
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    We use the 3m 3step shit. The new advanced formula compound then polish then the swirl eliminator
     
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    As long as you use them right, you should end up with swirl free finishes. Swirl Eliminator = Ultrafina
     
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    I think he's using the Swirl Mark Remover product. Which is amazing in itself. It's different than Ultrafina.
     
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    Swirl Eliminator is what it says on Ultrafina, not sure if it also says that on SMR. :dunno:

    3M really means it when referencing UF.
     
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    oh. no, i don't think it does.


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    I use SMR as the name suggests, and UF as a final finishing polish.

    Compound -> 64/SMR -> 68/UF
     
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    Not the same product, Ultrafina is 06068, that one is 06064.


    What I mean is that where it says "swirl eliminator" on Ultrafina, 3M really means that. Since I switched to it to finish out with the rotary, I have not gotten one single call back about rotary holograms. :)
     
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    so which ultrafina products should i look for to make it a "system"
     
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    I think 3M packages the products together in the Perfect-It pack. You could buy separately, but somewhere like TCPGlobal.com might have them prepackaged.

    edit* I found the three pack, my local ngas. :bowdown:
    http://www.levineautoparts.com/3m06162.html
     
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    I got a new job at a VW dealership and we only use 3M products, Extra Cut, Swirl Remover, and Ultra Fina. All I have to say is wow! 3M makes great polishes and compounds.
     
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    I'd avoid Extra cut. if you need something aggressive, try the rubbing compound. extra cut is just rediculous.
     
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    Actually, I thought it finishes down fantastic. The most aggressive foam we have is Edge green pad, and only rarely will the yellow 3M wool come out. I also am buffing out VW clear 98% of the time. After extra cut we will typically step down to blue foam with Swirl Remover, then wash, and finish off with Ultra Fina. We are the only car lot in town without buffer trails. And I am dam proud of it. :)
     
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    Meguiars #105 also works great on hard German paints. Minimal holograms even on black. :)
     
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    I like 105 too. I have a bottle of my own for personal use :big grin: I got rid of my black 02 Jetta and got an 06 Platinum Grey Jetta instead. So much easier to keep looking good :big grin:
     
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    I guess I should add I was witnessing/using Extra Cut on fresh repaints, and it was horrible. Of course, the guy couldn't buff well, and was using caked wool pads.....you know, after reading all of that, I guess I don't know much of anything about how Extra Cut works! :rofl:
     
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    I was an abrasives rep for 3M for a couple years out of college and sold microfinishing products to Toyota and Ford for polishing cams and cranks. They still sell hook-it, hook-it 2, and stick-it... your distributor should be able to get you any of the 3. How long has the chipping been going on? It could just be a bad lot, or if you replaced your back-up pad and are using a thinner or harder one, then this can lead to loading and chipping of the abrasive. Hope this helps
     
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    On have VW clear I've seen Extra Cut finish down as good as #105 with a green, or blue pad. Plus it has a little longer working time which makes it easier to use sometimes. I should really bring my #105 in to work and compare them. I haven't used my #105 since last spring.
     
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    Swril eliminator, is the same shit, diff bottle

    There is shit for Perfect-it Perfect-it II and perfect_it III or some shit
     
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    read above post
     
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    WE only use the 3 Foam Pads
     
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    Wrong as far as the discs and what not, hook it 2 is being discontinued or at least thats what we have been told. AS for hook it, They have a new 1500 pad that is diff from last years
     
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    Are you sure? They have different product numbers. When 3M changed the name of Ultrafina to Ultra Fine Machine Polish, they kept the 06068 product number so you'd know it is the same.
     
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    Pretty sure. 3m bought out meguires and some other company and has been in the process of deleting a bit of their product line since a lot of their products don't sell. and because of this, they have been changing their product numbers around a bit.


    For instance:
    3M machine polish, (the black stuff)

    Comes in these bottles
    The middle, WHITE LABEL which is 06064 and is a polish, not a swirl mark remover
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    Which is 09376
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    and which is 05996
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    But in the end they are all the same, I know for a fact that the red and white bottle are identical. When they upgraded the swirl eliminator and changed the name. They discontinued the SWIRL MARK REMOVER, and gave its product number to the polish
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    Basically what it comes down to is anytime they upgrade a product, they change the whole line, and the way they do that is to change the name and sometimes the numbders.
    The red and black polish bottle above is a perfect it II product. The white bottle of the same stuff is a Perfect it 3000 product. Same exact product, diff bottle and diff number.
     
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