GUN .357 Sig... Does the recoil overshadow it's ballistics advantages?

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  1. Fire Sauce

    Fire Sauce New Member

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    Was pondering this the other day and figured I'd ask you guys.

    Have heard things about .357 Sig recoil and it's driving me nuts.

    "The recoil is fine"
    "The recoil is terrible! Liek tEh OmGz!!11"

    Can you all come to some sort of consensus?
     
  2. blkgs4

    blkgs4 New Member

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    I have a 96 Elite with a Briley 357 sig barrel installed. Its a good bit different recoil wise as with the 40 S&W, its more of a sharper snappy recoil as opposed to more muzzle rise with the 40. I actually can do tighter groups with the 357 sig doing double taps. However I've tried out the subcompact glock thats utilizes the 357 round and it simply hurts (however I think that the 50 AE kinda hurts too but I enjoy the recoil of a 44 mag). So what kind of gun were you thinking about using it in?
    Nimesh
     
  3. Fire Sauce

    Fire Sauce New Member

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    I was looking at the Sig P239.

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  4. Y2kAccord

    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

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    .357 is weak.. I would start complaining around the .44mag .50 range
     
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    ShackleMeNot MINDSET

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    .357 Sig is more of a snappy pop than a push. It's not terrible but there are other calibers I'd rather shoot.
     
  6. blkgs4

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    I haven't tried it in the 239 and I haven't tried it in something even close, so I'd rather not comment on that but I'm sure some range has it for rent out there. Or just buy it used and if you don't like it just sell it you're not going to lose a lot of money (if any).
    Y2kAccord: Not sure if you're talking about the round itself or the recoil?
    If you're talking about recoil I'd half agree with you. However if you're talking about the ballistics of the 357 sig I'd have to disagree. The Corbons I generally shoot I've chronod speeds of 1475-1525 ft/sec, which I haven't seen anything even close. I've had some random 9's go around 1300 but nothing broke 1400 for me (at least out of a 5 inch barrel).
    ShackleMeNot: you are very true

    However after all said and done I still don't carry a 357 sig, because I just prefer my G23 is 40.


    Oh if you're interested in the 357, check out the 10mm too; especially in a Colt Delta Elite.
     
  7. ryanbum

    ryanbum Its the one that says Bad Mother Fucker on it

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    I can dump a mag in the 10 ring at 5 yards in just a few seconds. It is all about how much practice you have. Don't be a whiney puss about recoil. The only thing you should whine about is your gun if you have a Walther or Ruger.
     
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    True, but I've been dreaming of one for quite some time now.... But yeah the G29 is a pretty nice weapon also, but I'd still get the Colt Delta :x:
     
  9. Y2kAccord

    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

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    I was talking about the recoil, the only thing that has been unfortable was a DE.50 and .44 and a hot .454 round.
    .357, .40 arent really anything
     
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    Yeah recoil isn't anything to complain about. I just didn't like how it felt in the subcompact glocks, but I don't like any caliber in those :rolleyes:
     
  11. kellyclan

    kellyclan She only loves you when she's drunk.

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    i find the .357S to be a little "snappier" and quicker than the .40's "firm shove" or the .45's slow hard "push". So i've found it easier to make follow up shots with the faster recovery time. i don't find it anymore unpleasant than any other major defensive caliber, there's not much difference between them.


    i love how Clean and i used almost exactly the same words. :o
     
  12. Y2kAccord

    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

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    I know you are talking about the .357sig
     
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    footratfunkface New Member

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    what ballistic advantages? show me one place where .357 sig outperforms 9mm.
     
  14. ryanbum

    ryanbum Its the one that says Bad Mother Fucker on it

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    Shooting through car doors...
     
  15. Painkiller

    Painkiller The Synarchy of Molten Bones

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    And we all do that often.
     
  16. Fire Sauce

    Fire Sauce New Member

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    Better to have the ability, and not need it, rather than need it and not have it. :dunno:
     
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    .357 sig barely goes faster, and doesn't do anything ballistically that 9mm doesn't do at least as well. in the case of "car doors" and "windows", 9mm can not only go through them just fine, but still get penetration in the target behind it, and expansion through it. that's good to know. not only that, but you can carry more rounds of it, and have faster follow-up shots due to lower recoil.

    http://le.atk.com/Interior.asp?section=2&page=pages/ccispeer/ccispeer_GoldDot.asp

    the FBI did those terminal ballistics and penetration tests, if you were wondering.
     
  18. Y2kAccord

    Y2kAccord Everything happens for reasons I just dont know

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    How is a .357sig comparable to a .40
     
  19. SS109

    SS109 3100 FPS OT Supporter

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    I have it in a SIG 229 and don't find the recoil very bad. I might have to buy some snazzy wood grips for my SIG after seeing the picture of those.
    9mm+P is equivalent to .357SIG balistically but 9mm+P is pretty hard on 9mm pistols.
     
  20. footratfunkface

    footratfunkface New Member

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    not if you get a 9mm pistol that's worth a damn. what sort of shitty 9mm pistol are you shooting? a high point?
     
  21. sushibug

    sushibug :happysad:

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    exactly. this is the premise behind owning a handgun. better to have one and not need it than to need one and not have it!

    btw useful thread if the information is accurate. i always liked the .357sig but i guess it's nothing special.
     

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