30lbs in 20 years....

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  1. timberwolf

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    he's natural because testosterone is natural
     
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    exactly high dose HRT
     
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    looks good
     
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    :rolleyes:

    Maybe you're right.
    I personally think what he's done is possible. I think at 5'7 or 5'8 he competes below 170lbs.

    Mike, not everyone who actually looks good is on AAS.
     
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    i dont think everyone who looks good is on AAS, but I do think Layne is.

    just an opinion.
     
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    yea there's some asian dude who's pretty good forget his name
     
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    i hope you're not thinking of stan mcquay...or was that a joke about timber?
     
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    Layne and a few others include the original guy are most likely on bro. The body just isn't going to hold that much size at low bodyfat without a good amount of test OR just insane genetics.
     
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    Think I know who you're talking about. Saw him in couple magazine ads... reeeeeal lean.
     
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    timber joke
     
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    k. cuz i know mcquay was 'natura' for a while
     
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    no way iwoulda believed mcquay was natural
     
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    Yeah I hear that guy has backularity (back vascularity for the noobs).
     
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    Looking at either of their physiques, I don't see it. :dunno:
    Layne is currently 225lbs at 5'10 but last competed at 190lbs. Not that low a bodyfat at 225lbs.

    Sick tricep shot here.... is that the inner head?

    [​IMG]
     
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    See? Now Mcquay I never thought was natural. And I think there's a huge difference between Stan's physique even when he was saying he was still natural and that of Goodin or Layne's.
     
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    stan wasnt nearly as big as he is now, back when he claimed to be 'natural'
     
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    Dave Goodin, 48 :bowdown:
     
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    Wonder if I can invent something to simulate that backularity. Not wanting to cry over it though.
     
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    ya thats his long head sticking out the back of his arm. His calves don't grow for shit according to him. I watched about 20 videos on him. He reps the 150's on flat bench etc... He's doing the dual factor hypertrophy split. I just don't think he has not done something in his past...
     
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    http://jalaine.com/Documents/Dual_Factor_Hypertrophy_Training.doc
     
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    IMO Layne and Goodin still have a different physique from others who've claimed to be 'natural' like Stan, Skip or Jeff Willet.

    Someone...maybe NUDES mentioned about trap development in AAs users but in the Natural bodybuilding mags I've also rarely if ever seen anyone with really impressive legs.
     
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    Speaking of jeff willet, is that like a running joke in the bb'ing world? i mean its laughable to think the guy doesn't or hasn't used. layne and goodin i would believe natural but jeff willet?... no fucking way.
     
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    I don't believe many 48's are going to hold that size and leanness without endogenous test.
     
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    If you're going by the majority of F&N regulars, that would apply to 25 year olds.:mamoru:

    Personally, I'm hoping you're wrong.
     
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