Discussion in 'OT Driven' started by squid, Jul 11, 2008.
damn that's nice
Thats the concept truck from last years SEMA show.
Not exactly like that but a Yota HD series would be nice.
After working on Yotas professionally for the last 3 years, I wont own anything but when it comes to a truck.
definitely wont be seeing production anytime soon.
1) it's just a concept
2) it uses the same frame as the 1/2 ton tundra (which is already the worst frame in it's class)
3) not the time to try to take away sales in an already struggling big-truck market. there simply arn't sales to steal.
Bias much? You never have anything good to say about Toyota.
first of all, it is shit. there's no bias there. it's a fucking c-channel piece of shit straight out of the 80's. Every other manufacturer has moved on. Stop thinking that because it says "toyota" on it that it's magically the best.
Secondly, ANYONE can take a 1/2 ton frame and it'll be shit on a 1-ton truck. That goes for even the strongest 1/2 ton frame!
You honestly believe they would produce a 1 ton without producing an entirely new frame for it? That's only a concept truck. What facts do you have to put the Tundra frame in dead last? Just because it's a modified C channel/full box hybrid?
the ford video is pretty damn convincing. shake your booty!
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Yes it has more torsional flex, and this makes it incapable of performing its duties? Yes it isn't as good as the competitors frames in torsional rigidity but I've yet to see damage while under the new Tundras or hear complaints from customers about the frame.
Yea, what's up with everyone going, holy fucking shit jesus crap, the frame flexes so it's gotta be shit.
Fuck, when was the last time you loaded your truck down and mobbed it, stock? Yea, I don't think so. If anything, the ability for the frame to flex allows it to not be bent so easily, and might even make the ride a bit smoother. Now I can see it bending if you were as hard on it as the video was, but since when do you ever do that with stock vehicles, period?
Now if I felt like mobbing the thing, I'd install different leafs, box the frame, etc.
Check tundra solutions.... A guy loaded the back of his tundra up with a camper shell and built a sort of home-brew motor-home living environment in the bed. Took it camping over some dirt roads and split his frame pretty major.
I've been down BLM roads that have a similar effect (not quite as extreme, but definitely violent).
Personally, if I'm gonna drop $30k+ on a new truck (and they all seem to cost upward of that) then why buy a frame that needs hundreds of pounds of steel welded to it? Why not just get the better truck, from the start?
Because you're a retard for doing stuff like that. You're gonna bend the frame either way doing stuff like that.
oh sorry, I forgot that you shouldn't use a truck like a truck.
remind me, why don't we all drive econoboxes, again?
It's a truck, not an offroad vehicle.
You wanna bomb down beat to shit roads, and expect something not to get damaged? Shit.
odd. I've owned two chevy's that have been beat to shit and they always asked for more. I've owned a tacoma and it took a beating. I've owned a F250 that was romped to hell and back. I've had a frontier that did well offroad.
Last time I checked, trucks were DESIGNED to take these sort of abuse. In fact, there is really only ONE company that still makes a mainstream offroad-purposed vehicle, and that's the Jeep Wrangler.
No, they aren't designed to take that abuse. They are designed to get you around comfortably while being able haul around shit.
Just because a vehicle CAN take a beating, doesn't mean that all of them automatically have to be able to do the same.
It's like saying, because the wrx rally can be taken offroad, that all cars automatically have to be able to perform well in rally races.... yea, I don't think so.
Also, did you ever have the frames checked on those vehicles? Chances are that they are no longer true...
Da fuck? So they come with offroad packages and offroad tires and offroad shocks and graphics that say "offroad" on them because they're not offroad vehicles? Are you on crack?
No, it's advertising. Just because they throw some different tires on it, and jack the suspension up, doesn't mean it's gonna suddenly be able to handle abuse better.
Just because you see a ranger with an "offroad package", doesn't mean you can hop in it, and mob through shit like you're the fuckin man, and not damage something
you really must go to some of the meets that I've been to. They've been dozens of tacoma owners taking their mostly-stock vehicles and mobbing the shit out of them.
It's a lot of fun, and they don't break. I mean I've exceeded 170k miles on three of my trucks, and they've all been abused!
And I guess you're right that just because MOST trucks can take the abuse it doesn't mean that ALL of them do.... But I guess that was my original point, anyway. Why buy a less-capable truck when you could get something better for the same money?
Something I've learned is that if something is over-built for the application, it tends to last a lot longer. And I bet you'll see more abused chevy/ford/dodge full-size trucks out-lasting abused toyotas.