1st time builder! :noes:

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  1. BiggDoggUNC

    BiggDoggUNC Show me a good loser... and I'll show you a loser.

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    Any helpful hints (or links) to give a 1st time builder. I've only done extremely basic stuff. Upgrade memory, swap heatsink, add/swap drives. But this will be my 1st build from scratch. I've helped (watched) a friend build one. I guess the step I need the most help with is after the build is complete, getting all the device drivers installed and installing xp.

    Here's what I'm looking to order (budget build)... let me know if there's better products (for the money) then I've selected.

    You can save all the "Why'd you select blah blah blah :ugh: " comments, I'm not as informed as probably 80% of you, which is why I'm asking for your help. Please let me know what you suggest, and why it is better, I appreciate any info you can pass onto a noob.

    https://secure.newegg.com/NewVersion/Wishlist/PublicWishDetail.asp?WishListNumber=9107247&WishListTitle=1st+Build

    LIAN LI PC-65B Black Aluminum ATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
    Model #: PC-65B
    Item #: N82E16811112040
    $149.99 -$20.00 Instant $129.99

    GIGABYTE GA-P35-DS3L LGA 775 Intel P35 ATX Intel Motherboard - Retail
    Model #: GA-P35-DS3L
    Item #: N82E16813128059
    $89.99 $89.99

    XFX PVT84JUDD3 GeForce 8600GT XXX 256MB 128-bit GDDR3 PCI Express x16 SLI Supported Video Card - Retail
    Model #: PVT84JUDD3
    Item #: N82E16814150229
    $129.99 $129.99

    Thermaltake W0093RU ATX 12V 2.0 Version 500W Power Supply - Retail
    Model #: W0093RU
    Item #: N82E16817153028
    $79.99 $79.99

    Thermaltake Purepower W0100RU ATX 12V 2.0 500W Power Supply - Retail
    Model #: W0100RU
    Item #: N82E16817153052
    $69.99 -$15.00 Instant $54.99

    Intel Core 2 Duo E4400 Allendale 2.0GHz LGA 775 Processor Model BX80557E4400 - Retail
    Model #: BX80557E4400
    Item #: N82E16819115014
    $135.99 $135.99

    G.SKILL 2GB (2 x 1GB) 240-Pin DDR2 SDRAM DDR2 800 (PC2 6400) Dual Channel Kit Desktop Memory Model F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ - Retail
    Model #: F2-6400CL5D-2GBNQ
    Item #: N82E16820231098
    $89.99 -$40.00 Instant $49.99

    Western Digital Caviar SE WD1600AAJS 160GB 7200 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive - OEM
    Model #: WD1600AAJS
    Item #: N82E16822136075
    $49.99 $49.99

    Subtotal: $720.92


    Looking to keep it around $800, I have some wiggle room. I already have a 180 and 500gb HD I'm going to be moving from my old machine to the new one.
     
  2. Doc Brown

    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    The Lian li cases are beautiful, and built to tight standards, but I don't like that all they use 80mm fans on most of their cases.

    I prefer something with at least 92mm, and preferably 120mm for lower noise.

    You might want to look elsewhere for your psu.

    Here's a good site's recommendations for under $150 psu's.

    http://www.jonnyguru.net/forums/showthread.php?t=1460

    If you happent to be near a Microcenter, they have the TruePower Trio 650 watt psu for $70 after rebate.
     
  3. Dr. Smooth

    Dr. Smooth dazed and confused

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    check out the cooler master CM-690 for a case. its a steal at ~50 bucks, and uses 120mm fans.

    put the money you save from this into an 8800GT vid card if you plan on playing games at all. its like double the performance for 100 bucks or so. get an EVGA card so you can step up to the 9 series when they come out.
     
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    I agree with Doc_Brown on the case. When you a by a Lian Li you're paying for the high build quality. They're great cases, but for a budget build you're not getting much for your money buying a PC-65 (That case has been on the market for at least 4-5 years, and it's getting pretty dated efficiency wise). The Antec 900 would be a good choice if you like it's looks.

    You have 2 power supplies in that list (I'm assuming that's a mistake?) Anyway, that power supply is probably fine, but I would suggest looking at something else. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817171023
    ^^ For example that would be a better choice.

    If you already have 2 hard drives that you're going to re-use from an older computer, why not save your money and not get another 160GB drive?

    The big problem I had with that rig is the video card. I guess it depends on how many games you play, and at what settings. If you're going to be happy with an 8600 then go for it. Personally, I'd have to have a more powerful card. The 8800GT can be found for about $250 I believe (I did a quick search on newegg and they were all sold out). Even an 8800GTS 320mb would last you a LOT longer. It just depends on if you can spend the extra money or not.

    Don't forget a DVD drive (they're really cheap). Do you have a copy of XP you can install?

    If your biggest challenge is going to be installing windows and the system drivers installed then you're fine man. Installing windows is simple. After you get windows installed, just run the disk that comes with the motherboard and it will have all your system drivers on it. Install your video card drivers, and you're pretty much done. I don't know any links to give you, but there are all kinds of guides online if you just google them.
     
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    BiggDoggUNC Show me a good loser... and I'll show you a loser.

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    Good to know, I've had several people swear by Lian Li, and since my current box was cheap, but is loud/rattles/etc. I figure to drop some coin to avoid some of that. I'll probably look for a cheaper alternative to the Lian Li cas.
     
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    BiggDoggUNC Show me a good loser... and I'll show you a loser.

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    thanks, my 2 drives, the smaller one is for music, and use the larger one for movies/shows. I don't know how hard it is to partition it to use as the main drive.

    Thanks for suggestions on the vid card... that's probably where I needed the most advice. Since I'll probably save some money on the case, that should free up some for the vid card
     
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    dell had a special running on the 8800gt, down around $220 IIRC.
     
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    i'm tellin ya, check the cm-690. its a beast for the money
     
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    I've got the same case, except in brushed aluminum. The build quality is above and beyond anything any other case I've ever laid hands on.

    The only real downside is that they use 80mm fans and there's no way to move a lot of air with those without getting loud fans.
     
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    the lian li PCA05 cases use 2 120mm fans

    thats what I have in black
     
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    Doc Brown Don't make me make you my hobby

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    A lot depends on what you like as far as looks go.

    If you like a gaming case, there's a lot of good deals lately on the Antec Nine Hundred . And that case has superb cooling.

    If you want a more traditional style with good airflow, the Cooler Master mentioned a couple of posts before yours is a good case.
     
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    BiggDoggUNC Show me a good loser... and I'll show you a loser.

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    BiggDoggUNC Show me a good loser... and I'll show you a loser.

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    true... but I just got a $75 MIR from august last week. They at least have their shit together now. They emailed me when the check was cut

    other then that, case any good?
     
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    also, FYI, its is a reversed layout, the mobo is "upside down" and the fans intake from the rear and exhaust out of the front, so my CPU gets the fresh air from the rear intake fan

    inside looking towards the rear

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    pic with front cover off

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    So does it actually flow good with the front cover on?
     
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    Wirelessly posted via wap.offtopic.com (BlackBerry8300/4.2.2 Profile/MIDP-2.0 Configuration/CLDC-1.1 VendorID/102)

    Yeah, the whole lenght of the inch wide edges of the front cover has holes in it, so it vents to either side
     

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