GUN 1986 FBI shootout in Miami

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  1. t1h

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    That event pretty much sparked the research into what is modern terminal ballistics.
     
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    In for home, fuck reading a wiki page on my phone :rofl:
     
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    That incident changed a lot of things - it got a lot of departments out of revolvers for one.
     
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    2L Bunny "It's only a Rabbit"

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    Massad Ayoob did a pretty good writeup on the shootout.
     
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    Watershed moment in LE defensive tactics/firearms circles.
     
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    Actually alot of people think its pretty terrible like the rest of his work. http://www.firearmstactical.com/briefs7.htm is probably a much more accurate write up.

    http://www.firearmstactical.com/tacticalbriefs/2006/04/03/0604-03a.htm is another great article that tears apart ayoob, about 1/3rd down the page there are some tables that show a few good examples of the many outright incorrect things ayoob wrote about the miama incident.
     
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    :rofl: I was afraid someone would mention ayoob.
     
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    Platinum_Thunder Reliability for life and liberty

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    and we're off
     
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    2L Bunny "It's only a Rabbit"

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    I'll check those out later when I have more time to read. A LOT of people bash Ayoob, but he's still a damn good writer. Do I always agree with him? nope.
     
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    THIS IS TEH PROOF! .45 >>>>>>>>>>>> 9mm




















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    Didn't it lead to the development of the S&W .40?
     
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    no, the .50 BMG :hsugh:
     
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    Yes, because the FBI didn't want to lose face going back to the .45ACP.
     
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    I read somewhere that the bad guys fired 750 rounds a week during training
     

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