Discussion in 'On Topic' started by Bloody Sunday, Dec 9, 2008.
host man called them SWAT
Talk about crossfire! They were on opposite sides of the street shooting towards each other!
all i saw were shotguns and small handguns though. ehhh oh well
police aren't exactly marksmen
lol was thinking that
it's because contrary to movies, bullets never go through walls, or vehicles...
DUHHHH! that's why the cameraman and all the others were perfectly safe on opposite sides of each other.
EVERYONE knows this
undercover difficult for bullets to go through cars
you didn't see those trees?
I was more talking about them saying the cops were undercover like the guy didnt know they were cops.
get a sense of humor. you're as dense as it gets
Wow, one guy could have unloaded an 11-87 worth of slugs into the windshield and ended that whole thing. Or one guy could have fired an M4 into the windshield and ended it. I think someone needs to learn about the right weapon for the job.
That host annoys the absolute shit out of me.
I know it's terrible, but I'd love to see a bad guy come up and pistol whip him on camera, just to knock him down a peg or two. Lulz would certainly ensue.
SWAT team, maybe, Sherff's have a dedicated team of trained "SWAT officers" within their department, at least here in California.
The other Captain cop is an idiot for saying that bullets don't pass through cars very easily.
It is...even more so with hollowpoints. A windshield can deflect a .223 round. Most officers in that video clips used SMGs and hand guns, those will have a hell of a time going through a car.
Are you saying they are going to bounce off the window and not go through the car?
It will leave a mark, but you won't find any exit holes in the back of the car. Fragmentation is a 2 bladed sword.
Too much movie watching? You think a 223 can go thru a windshield, thru a front seat, back seat and out the trunk? Or even just a windshield and out the back window?
Look how the host is holding the pump action a few seconds after he gets the shotgun, he's holding it like a wine glass
I am tryign to find a video clip on youtube where someone shoots full auto M249 into a car. The side that got hit is riddles with holes but the other side only has handful of exit holes. And there's a very good chance they were using FMJs not hollowpoints or fragmenting rounds since they were at the range just shooting.
I dont know where to began the fact that JHP actually do the opposite when shot through windshields they dont expand. And its not likes there trying to shoot somoene on the other side of the car so full penetration through the car isnt required.
Also standard M855 will go through a car youve been watching to many movies where you think using a car as cover will do shit against rifle ammo
I wouldn't use a car as a cover, since it won't stop every round. It depends on which part of car the round goes through, it may or may not penetrate the car but it would be a bad call to think that every round is going to make it out the other end of the car.
I have a police training pdf that talks about using .223 to penetrate objects. It's copy protected, so I had to take screenshots of it.
Thanks for that, I was hoping for one of the WMD's old members to come through with some nice info. Basically light, fast projectile that fragment sucks for penetration.
I've got more police documents that talk about specific incidents with .223 in houses. It's kind of odd to think, but lots of shots fired that missed their intended targets and hit exterior walls (without hitting anything else first) don't even fully penetrate the walls. Interior walls are easier to penetrate, but even there, the result is surprisingly little penetration.