GUN 10/22 Iron/Peep sight rundown

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  1. SNDP

    SNDP New Member

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    Hello,

    I've gone through several iron peep sight setups trying to find the best for my application. I shoot 25M and 50M and the competitions I shoot allow 4x scoped or iron sights. I have been using an old bolt action Mossberg 46B with aperture sights and found with the round target pips the aperture sights worked as well if not better than a 4x scope.

    I joined the 10/22T crew (on 10/22 by unplanned coincidence) and although it came with a scope I really wanted aperture sights. I have tried them all out and evaluated them at 25 and 50M ranges. You mileage may vary, but here are my results.

    The participants:
    • Tech Sights TSR200: $69
    • Tech Sights TSM200: $69
    • DPMS Detachable Rear Sight AR-15: $59
    • Williams WGRS-RU22: $41.99
    • Williams FP-AG Receiver Peep Sight : $58.99
    • Lyman Globe Sights, 2 heights
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    Additional items:
    • Weaver front sight risers
    • Weaver T0-9 top mount base ( one piece tip-off base )
    • Dovetail cut in barrel
    I wanted to make sure each sight could bottom out below 25M and adjust to 100M. I tried using the front post sights that came with the Tech-Sights units and found the best results when lollipopping the target pips, but the Lyman front apertures provided a naturally better sight picture. This is especially more accurate to those of us with aging eyes.... Those little pips sight easier in the round apertures than on the top of a post. I also did not want to have a front sight band adding weight to the rifle, so I had 3/8 dovetails cut in the rifles I was testing. (Russian Biathalon Basic and 10/22T)
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    DPMS Detachable Rear Sight

    The DMPS sight was familiar to me and it's adjustments familiar as they would be to anyone else that's been in the Army. It gets good marks for the clickable adjustments and familiarity. This sight was too high to be able to get zeroed at 25M even with the tall Lyman globe sight.
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    Tech Sights TSR200
    This is the go-to sight for many .22 users. It did require the tall Lyman globe sight to hit below 25M. (The included front post is the proper height of course). If you were in the Army very long ago, you will be familiar with the windage adjustment on the rear, and the vertical front post adjustment and the nifty little tool needed to make the adjustments easy. All around I liked this sight, but found the vertical adjustments a little too difficult. That tiny little vertical wheel is hard to turn and easy to scratch up while you try to adjust it. There's also no vertical visual cue on the sight to mark your zeroed ranges at. It precludes using a rail for a scope.
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    Williams WGRS-RU22
    This sight screws right into the receiver and is an OK sight but has a few drawbacks. First, the adjustments are not click-able, and you often lose where the sight 'was' when you loosen the set screws to make adjustments. Once you loosen those screws, you can accidentally tap the sight off sight with no reference to get it back to. It also precludes using a rail if you want to swap back and forth with a scope. The plus points are that it can accept different Williams apertures, is small, and will use the short regular Lyman front globe. Also comes with the Firesight front post.
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    Tech Sights TSM200
    This is my second place choice. It would NOT fit on the stock 10/22T rail though. However it worked just fine on the Weaver T0-9 rail which is properly drilled and provides the screws for attachment to the stock 10/22 receiver holes. Tech Sights markets this as their Marlin 60 & 795 sight, and it's a bit shorter than their TSR200. I do like the clickable adjustments that hold firm, but the drawback is the vertical adjustment is difficult with that little tiny wheel.
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    Williams FP-AG Receiver Peep Sight
    This turned out to be my favorite of the lot. It has EASY clickable vertical and windage adjustments, mounts to the T0-9 rail and larger rails, with locking mounting screws. A simple little screwdriver will click right through the adjustments and there are scales marked on the sight for vertical and windage reference. Fits right around the 10/22 receiver and no stock in-letting was required. I replaced it's stock aperture with a larger disk that has a smaller hole. Williams has apertures in several sizes and hole diameters.
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  2. phrozenlikwid

    phrozenlikwid New Member

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    Cool review, I've honestly never really though much about target grade apertures on a 10/22.

    The last Williams unit definitely looks the most serious.
     
  3. Keesh

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    Damn good writeup. Makes me want another 10/22
     
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    get some quigley down under sites :coold:
     
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    You know, if you think the TSR200 is too tall, maybe try the TSR100....no elevation wheel though.
     
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    Just curious, what is the difference in heights (say top of barrel to sight dot) between high and low sights.

    That willams is tempting for my Henry 22 but I want to see it the current front sight is a high or low one.
     
  7. SNDP

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    The difference between the lymans was about half an inch. If the front sight is too low you'll never get it sighted it will always shoot high.
     
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    Cool thread, I'm stuck at work this morning and it kept me entertained.
     
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    Paging Buzz Killington
     
  10. XR250rdr

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    Good review :)

    I have a Williams 5D sight on my 30-30 and its a lot better than the stock rear sight, but your review just confirms I should have popped for the FP sight.
     

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